So, I fully support trans people competing with cisgender people in sport. I also think there's loads of sports where you could gender desegregate it - basically all the sports that don't rely on strength and size.

So I said that bit, but then I also said that if you desegregated sports like swimming, football, rugby, etc etc, then you would never see a woman in a top team or on the podium at the Olympics ever again. Is that not factual? Even Ledecky, who is a ridiculously good swimmer, would not even make the men's swimming final at the Olympics.

I think you could desegregate sports at lower levels too - I've seen it done and experienced it. I was in a middle tier team in cricket with a bunch of dinguses, and the sometimes Women's A Team players would join our matches. They were as capable or better than the blokes most of the time. However, these women went on to play internationally, on TV, picking up contracts and stuff by playing against other women. If it was desegregated she'd be playing with shmucks like me who never even really liked cricket.

Am I wrong?

  • jabrd [he/him]
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    3 years ago

    But someone is always the stronger individual. Unless the sport is specifically weight lifting it then comes down to skill level. I’m a pretty good fighter, 6’2” about 210lbs, but I wouldn’t favor myself over a top ranked women’s straw weight just because I know they have the skills to mitigate my size and strength and would probably choke me tf out given the chance. Raw physicality can take you a distance in competition but talent doesn’t defeat skill level. idk this is a thought experiment I don’t pay too much mind to because it’s so outside the realm of current possibility, but I’ve been subbed by a woman too many times in training to just dismiss out of hand the idea that women can be competitive with men in high level sports