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I would argue that particular vibe didn't have a coherent political orientation until Gamergate crystallized it. The only overtly political things I remember they cared about were fucking with Hal Turner and standing in front of Scientology clinics.
It was always going to go that way. There was always an incredibly reactionary majority. Gamergate just made a lot of people notice. The Chris Chan harrassment began well before gamergate and boxxy prior to those who remember, they doxxedd and harrased people regularly driving some to suicide. Gamergate made the reactionary elements known but Trump made it seem like a political orientation, it still isn't really because it's an incoherent hive by definition but anything not generally right is fully purged instead of being marginal to the point of not really mattering.
You're right of course, which is why I have difficulty squaring any of them as a political orientation, since the cohort being represented here is "single disaffected mostly white young men who like hentai and video games." Their strongest held belief is their inherent right to harass people over the internet. That's what all of our examples are. They want to the right to say slurs in call of duty lobbies, link people to shock sites, and get a giddy thrill out of telling someone to kill themselves. I feel like that isn't exactly a popular thing to organize around, which is probably why they had to expand to outright and overt reactionary politics.
periodic reminder that gamergate was a wildly successful astroturfing campaign orchestrated by cambridge analytica at the behest of steve bannon, which aided and assisted, perhaps unintentionally, stormfront's active and ongoing astroturfing campaign and crystalized the current neoreactionary movement
Was Elevatorgate before or after it? That was when I felt the edgelords started to turn really bad, though of course things like "an hero" were already awful. And I do remember edgy ironic nazi memes from very early.
Oh god I had forgotten all about Elevatorgate. That was before, in 2011. Gamergate started in earnest in 2014.
Were those the same groups of internet edgelords? Like it was debate club atheists and 4chan pedophiles. There was probably overlap though. It gives me vertigo to think that "atheist" used to be a whole structured ideological stance just like 7 years ago and somehow involved transphobia and rabid hatred of feminism.
There was severe overlap between the right branch of the atheists (not usually the sort that hung around with PZ Meyers though) and channers in my experience, Probably stemming from the first Scientology/Creationism wars back on USENET.
I would argue that particular vibe didn't have a coherent political orientation until Gamergate crystallized it. The only overtly political things I remember they cared about were fucking with Hal Turner and standing in front of Scientology clinics.
It was always going to go that way. There was always an incredibly reactionary majority. Gamergate just made a lot of people notice. The Chris Chan harrassment began well before gamergate and boxxy prior to those who remember, they doxxedd and harrased people regularly driving some to suicide. Gamergate made the reactionary elements known but Trump made it seem like a political orientation, it still isn't really because it's an incoherent hive by definition but anything not generally right is fully purged instead of being marginal to the point of not really mattering.
You're right of course, which is why I have difficulty squaring any of them as a political orientation, since the cohort being represented here is "single disaffected mostly white young men who like hentai and video games." Their strongest held belief is their inherent right to harass people over the internet. That's what all of our examples are. They want to the right to say slurs in call of duty lobbies, link people to shock sites, and get a giddy thrill out of telling someone to kill themselves. I feel like that isn't exactly a popular thing to organize around, which is probably why they had to expand to outright and overt reactionary politics.
periodic reminder that gamergate was a wildly successful astroturfing campaign orchestrated by cambridge analytica at the behest of steve bannon, which aided and assisted, perhaps unintentionally, stormfront's active and ongoing astroturfing campaign and crystalized the current neoreactionary movement
Was Elevatorgate before or after it? That was when I felt the edgelords started to turn really bad, though of course things like "an hero" were already awful. And I do remember edgy ironic nazi memes from very early.
Oh god I had forgotten all about Elevatorgate. That was before, in 2011. Gamergate started in earnest in 2014.
Were those the same groups of internet edgelords? Like it was debate club atheists and 4chan pedophiles. There was probably overlap though. It gives me vertigo to think that "atheist" used to be a whole structured ideological stance just like 7 years ago and somehow involved transphobia and rabid hatred of feminism.
There was severe overlap between the right branch of the atheists (not usually the sort that hung around with PZ Meyers though) and channers in my experience, Probably stemming from the first Scientology/Creationism wars back on USENET.