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  • FidelCashflow [he/him]
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    3 years ago

    Ehh, the bjj doesn't work in the streets meme is over rated.

    While the game plan of BBJ in a competition context is diffrent that the streets the set of skills are useful in the context of street engagement.

    A person with a strong set of skills related to the mechanics of moving bodies is better prepared to handle altercations. Plus having a set of skills for assaultive behavior managment that doesn't look like felony assault is specifically usefull in the context of street battles with cameras.

    • Sbebg [none/use name]
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      3 years ago

      Bjj def does work in the streets. Mma just works better because it’s bjj plus Muay Thai. If you are against someone who has good tdd and can strike as someone who just knows bjj you are fucked if your similar skill leveled. Bjj will beat Muay Thai obviously if both fighters are on the same level most of the time but someone who is good at bjj and Muay Thai will be able knock someone out who just is good at bjj if they are the same skill level in bjj. If they are on the same level the guy who only knows bjj will not be able to get his opponent down. And he will be a fish out of water striking and quickly get koed. But let’s say that the bjj only guy pulls gaurd. All the guy who knows how to strike gotta do is kick you in the leg if you pull gaurd until ur leg is shattered because bjj doesn’t know how to check a kick. And then get soccer kicked in the face. Or just ground and pound through gaurd like the bjj only guy has 0 striking defense on the ground. Obviously if the bjj only guy is a lot better at bjj than the one who knows Muay Thai a lot of the time he will win. I’m just saying that only learning grappling is a really limiting mindset in martial arts. Someone who knows how to elbow and punch well while grappling on the same level as his opponent is gonna absolute ly destroy them because the grappling only person has 0 striking defense and no grappling advantage. Bjj+striking is objectively superior to bjj. So I hate when people act like bjj is the end all be alone and the best way to defend urself when no it’s not. Mma is. The best bjj professionals on the planet would quickly be beaten by the best mma fighters on the planet in an actual fight because guess what bjj has notoriously terrible at actually taking ur opponent down look at Gilbert burns adcc 3rd place vs Kamaru usman a d2 wreslting champion. Kamaru out grappled burns and forced him to strike and beat him. Wrestling +Muay Thai will always beat bjj. The bjj guy only has a chance if he can strike too. Demain maia who is like considered the best bjj guy at takedowns in mma shoots 0/20 on guys with high level wrestling like usman or woodley. Sakuraba was the Gracie killer because he was a great wrestler and a great striker for his time and simply outstruck them standing or on the feet. Or just straight up submitted them because he was a savage. Anyways I’m just saying mma is superior to bjj in terms of self defense. Mma is the closest you’ll get to an actual fight. And guess what bjj guys lose all the time they get submitted koed and decision like everyone else. Bjj alone is a great martial art for self defense, but mma is objectively superior for self defense.

      • FidelCashflow [he/him]
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        3 years ago

        You say stuff like that, and I agree. However I am talking about the context.

        I had a bjj coach that had a mental breakdown. Guess how many people it took to restrain him? More than they had. Cops couldn't reatrain him without resorting to tazers. Obviously if he was black it would have been different. But you can see how the ability to shrimp out and run comes into play.

        If we are dealing with the random Proudboy in the street the ability to movie their body, disenguage, and not be photographed punching them are all skills well worth the time. While a good striking background is important, in the current context I couldn't without reservation say it a high prority use of time.