If you seriously believe that 87% of russian troops have been lost you need to take a long hard look at why you think that’s true. Like think about it, if theyve lost that many troops then why haven’t the battle lines shifted in any meaningful way basically all year ? Why is there no outrage and overflowing graveyards, or increased mobilization in Russia if thats the case ?
Seriously like whatever side of the conflict you’re on aside, if you want any intellectual credibility you gotta think about that one
Deployed troops, not troop reserves. The estimates are fairly accurate and have been fact checked by multiple intelligence groups. There's burn pits for the bodies of dead Russians, don't exactly need a graveyard when they go up in smoke.
The 87% is from the US latest estimate of 315,000 casualties. This lines up fairly well with Ukrainian reports, as well as UK, and AUS reports. Fortunately burn pits are hard to hide from satellite imagery.
Unfortunately my access to these images is limited due to the sensitive nature of the military optics involved, however in the future, the ICC will judiciate these war crimes, and the evidence will likely see public eyes.
Even without those images, the documented attrocities by both Hamas and the IDF are abhorrent. Needless loss of life is terrible and should be condemned. I'm glad I live in a country that openly condemns the violence facing civilians in the region.
You are such a fed, Jesus. My point is that Israel makes up evidence and the US regularly supports its inventions. See Joe pretending those baby pictures exist.
Joe did not confirm these photos exist, he did acknowledge that it had been relayed to him they exist. He stands firm on trust, but verify, which is an important aspect of honing policy decisions.
It's possible it was a result of his diagnosed stutter, he's not exactly the most eloquent speaker I'll admit, but it'd be wrong to judge someone based on a speech impediment.
If you could define bit like I asked, maybe I could inform you if this equates it? I'm really just trying to get people to use reason and logic to draw conclusions and present those in public discourse. Does that match the definition?
Interesting, however you failed to define bit. Do you mean bit as in comedy sketch? If so, that's an incredibly uncommon use of the word, and furthermore wrong for this context.
You're online enough to make like half the total commemts in this thread. You know what a bit is. And may add, its a great one. You're hilarious and i love it, and i admire the commitment
Your country has consistently threatened mine with sanctions and even military actions the second Nelson Mandela became sworn in as president, all the way to the present.
This really depends on the war/conflict being discussed, but generally speaking the US's global policy is to support democracy and the humane treatment of humans. Respecting this general stance, it's easy to back Ukraine in a defensive manor, protecting the sovereign control from foreign Russian aggression.
Fuck, I remember you now, you're that fucker who made it like two comments into defending that ridiculous thesis a few months ago before turning around and crying to some other instance that I said something that I plainly didn't. I don't remember exactly what it was. I think I discussed the DPRK, but there was something else to it too.
This is such a pathetic line from someone who cannot contradict the assumption that the US are the good guys. The only time I ever saw you change your position was when you went from going "yeah, some of those other times were bad, but they are good now!" to "the Vietnam War was in defense of democracy".
Absolute fucking clown. I hope you're a fed because it means they are wasting some of their subversion budget paying incompetents like you.
Once again, your use of language is a disgrace to meaningful debate. Please learn some civility in dealing with these matters, it'll pay out dividends down the road.
Your fetishism of PG speech to defend the bloodiest empire in history is a disgrace to humanity and common decency. I'll take my chances falling afoul of the tenets of your Debate God.
Which intelligence groups? Surely ones with actual credibility, right? Not the ones that lied about Iraq having weapons of mass destruction. Not the ones that lied about covid being a Chinese bioweapon while murdering their own citizens because doing something to protect people from covid would reduce profits. Not the ones that lied about Hamas beheading babies. Any intelligence group that ever spread any of those lies has zero credibility.
So ones with no credibility as I just demonstrated. Verify that they've lied to you in the past, but trust that they won't this time.
How was Trump's handling of covid any different than Biden's? They both pushed the strategy of doing less testing so we have less cases. Vaccine uptake was abysmal under both, and will only get worse now that vaccines have gone from being free to costing almost $200. The majority of Americans have been gathering without masks at places like restaurants since day 1 because corporate media has constantly said sacrificing people for the economy is good, and no public official has even attempted to do anything to stop that. Trump's covid response was bipartisan from the start.
Actually many American's chose to wear masks, including myself, based on public health guidance. There's definitely some inadvisable decisions made by those largely under the Trump umbrella, but they're an outlier that make for entertaining news segments.
Yeah, the people under the Trump umbrella were pretty bad. Remember when they spat in the face of science and public health to cut the isolation period for covid cases in half because delta airlines complained about losing money? It's crazy that some people don't condemn them for that and tragic that there were never any criminal charges for such an incredible abuse of power.
That was an example of Biden's covid response. We agree that Trump's administration should be condemned for its handling of covid. It seems we also agree that Biden's administration should be condemned for its handling of covid.
You singled out Trump as the one president with a bad covid response. I asked how Biden's covid response was any different and you still talked about Trump. I presented an example of a terrible covid response from Biden and you agreed it should be condemned.
If you seriously believe that 87% of russian troops have been lost you need to take a long hard look at why you think that’s true. Like think about it, if theyve lost that many troops then why haven’t the battle lines shifted in any meaningful way basically all year ? Why is there no outrage and overflowing graveyards, or increased mobilization in Russia if thats the case ?
Seriously like whatever side of the conflict you’re on aside, if you want any intellectual credibility you gotta think about that one
Deployed troops, not troop reserves. The estimates are fairly accurate and have been fact checked by multiple intelligence groups. There's burn pits for the bodies of dead Russians, don't exactly need a graveyard when they go up in smoke.
Source: “intelligence agencies” that you don’t even name or provide a link to
Evidence: it’s all been burned and so doesn’t exist. The fact the evidence doesn’t exist is proof that it’s true.
The 87% is from the US latest estimate of 315,000 casualties. This lines up fairly well with Ukrainian reports, as well as UK, and AUS reports. Fortunately burn pits are hard to hide from satellite imagery.
Link me something about these satellite images that show “burn pits”
Unfortunately my access to these images is limited due to the sensitive nature of the military optics involved, however in the future, the ICC will judiciate these war crimes, and the evidence will likely see public eyes.
So what you're saying is that some people claim there are photos? Then the evidence isn't photos but testimony until those photos are produced
Yessir, the evidence should see public eyes in due time.
lol, right after we get those beheaded baby pics
Even without those images, the documented attrocities by both Hamas and the IDF are abhorrent. Needless loss of life is terrible and should be condemned. I'm glad I live in a country that openly condemns the violence facing civilians in the region.
You are such a fed, Jesus. My point is that Israel makes up evidence and the US regularly supports its inventions. See Joe pretending those baby pictures exist.
Joe did not confirm these photos exist, he did acknowledge that it had been relayed to him they exist. He stands firm on trust, but verify, which is an important aspect of honing policy decisions.
Joe claimed to have seen the pictures
He either misspoke or straight up lied because he said he saw the pictures, not he was told pictures exist or the picture was described to him.
It's possible it was a result of his diagnosed stutter, he's not exactly the most eloquent speaker I'll admit, but it'd be wrong to judge someone based on a speech impediment.
Laughing at a disability is not something you should take lightly.
Excellent, I'll laugh with you! Laughter produces endorphins and may contribute to more positive input. This community is quite hostile!
I hope you're laughing, cause this has to be a bit
I refuse to believe you're serious and not a bit. No one could seriously talk like this let alone believe what they're saying
If you could define bit like I asked, maybe I could inform you if this equates it? I'm really just trying to get people to use reason and logic to draw conclusions and present those in public discourse. Does that match the definition?
Interesting, however you failed to define bit. Do you mean bit as in comedy sketch? If so, that's an incredibly uncommon use of the word, and furthermore wrong for this context.
You know what a bit is
Do I? There's plenty of differing definitions and you haven't provided enough context to know which one's in use here.
You're online enough to make like half the total commemts in this thread. You know what a bit is. And may add, its a great one. You're hilarious and i love it, and i admire the commitment
Your country has consistently threatened mine with sanctions and even military actions the second Nelson Mandela became sworn in as president, all the way to the present.
Also, "attrocities"
Just like how the ICC got cold feet after Isisrael was reported to the ICC by South Africa because
Wait so in your concept of this war, you see the US as a disinterested neutral observer?
Putler woke up one day and his omelette was burnt slightly, so he ordered the sacking of Kiev.
Honestly understandable sometimes its the smallest thing that sets you off, could see myself doing the same
This really depends on the war/conflict being discussed, but generally speaking the US's global policy is to support democracy and the humane treatment of humans. Respecting this general stance, it's easy to back Ukraine in a defensive manor, protecting the sovereign control from foreign Russian aggression.
This is a bit?
As in a 1 or a 0? Generally speaking quantum dynamics dictates a gray area is more in line with today's reasoning.
Goddamn it
No need to be hostile, please refrain from the use of language, it doesn't promote thoughtful debate.
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Thank you, I was hungry for some bytes! Nom, nom.
consider biting down on a bullet instead
Fuck, I remember you now, you're that fucker who made it like two comments into defending that ridiculous thesis a few months ago before turning around and crying to some other instance that I said something that I plainly didn't. I don't remember exactly what it was. I think I discussed the DPRK, but there was something else to it too.
I won't continue a discussion with someone using that type of language. Please refrain from language that does not promote thoughtful discourse.
This is such a pathetic line from someone who cannot contradict the assumption that the US are the good guys. The only time I ever saw you change your position was when you went from going "yeah, some of those other times were bad, but they are good now!" to "the Vietnam War was in defense of democracy".
Absolute fucking clown. I hope you're a fed because it means they are wasting some of their subversion budget paying incompetents like you.
Once again, your use of language is a disgrace to meaningful debate. Please learn some civility in dealing with these matters, it'll pay out dividends down the road.
Your fetishism of PG speech to defend the bloodiest empire in history is a disgrace to humanity and common decency. I'll take my chances falling afoul of the tenets of your Debate God.
I'm an atheist, there is no God. That being said, being kind and listening is important to public discourse and should be encouraged full stop.
Being kind to imperialists is being cruel to their victims.
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Are you okay? Your record may be zkipping.
LMAO. Thanks for the laughs at least.
You dont know who zenz is huh?
Loser
So zero unaligned sources.
You're welcome to cite alternatives! I'll hear your arguments!
You're the one making the claim, dipshit.
I won't discuss further if you're going to use unproductive language in this discourse. Thanks for understanding!
Satre was right about fascists like you.
Interesting take! Falls short with the fascist claim.
Incorrect
I'm about as far from a fascist as it comes, but to each their own. Democratic debate is a core belief of mine.
Fascists, known for being completely honest about their commitment to democracy...
Fascism is at odds with the democratic process, I'm not sure how you can begin to equate the two.
Lol
Which intelligence groups? Surely ones with actual credibility, right? Not the ones that lied about Iraq having weapons of mass destruction. Not the ones that lied about covid being a Chinese bioweapon while murdering their own citizens because doing something to protect people from covid would reduce profits. Not the ones that lied about Hamas beheading babies. Any intelligence group that ever spread any of those lies has zero credibility.
US, UK, AUS, and Germany for example. Good cooroboration by nations acting independently. Trust but verify holds true.
Aside: Trumps handling of the Coronavirus was abhorrent. He in no way resonates the beliefs of the majority of Americans. He didn't win by plurality.
So ones with no credibility as I just demonstrated. Verify that they've lied to you in the past, but trust that they won't this time.
How was Trump's handling of covid any different than Biden's? They both pushed the strategy of doing less testing so we have less cases. Vaccine uptake was abysmal under both, and will only get worse now that vaccines have gone from being free to costing almost $200. The majority of Americans have been gathering without masks at places like restaurants since day 1 because corporate media has constantly said sacrificing people for the economy is good, and no public official has even attempted to do anything to stop that. Trump's covid response was bipartisan from the start.
Actually many American's chose to wear masks, including myself, based on public health guidance. There's definitely some inadvisable decisions made by those largely under the Trump umbrella, but they're an outlier that make for entertaining news segments.
Yeah, the people under the Trump umbrella were pretty bad. Remember when they spat in the face of science and public health to cut the isolation period for covid cases in half because delta airlines complained about losing money? It's crazy that some people don't condemn them for that and tragic that there were never any criminal charges for such an incredible abuse of power.
There's been a lot of condemnation handed out for their actions, not sure why you'd think otherwise?
That was an example of Biden's covid response. We agree that Trump's administration should be condemned for its handling of covid. It seems we also agree that Biden's administration should be condemned for its handling of covid.
I read this multiple times over and it's still not making sense, care to reiterate?
You singled out Trump as the one president with a bad covid response. I asked how Biden's covid response was any different and you still talked about Trump. I presented an example of a terrible covid response from Biden and you agreed it should be condemned.
I think either I mistyped or you misinterpreted what I wrote, but it's getting late, and I'll have to reassess in the morning.