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  • LeninWalksTheWorld [any]
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    3 years ago

    genocide gets you 10-20 years in Bolivia?? Pot dealers in the US get harsher sentences lol

    • JoesFrackinJack [he/him]
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      3 years ago

      Yeah thought the same. Idk anything about the criminal justice system in Bolivia, maybe they focus more on rehabilitation and don't have long mandatory sentences?

    • zifnab25 [he/him, any]
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      3 years ago

      genocide gets you 10-20 years in Bolivia??

      Andrews Brevik got the maximum allowed sentence and that was only 13 years.

      There is a sociological argument that keeping people in jail into their 50s and 60s is pointless, as recidivism plummets.

      • ClimateChangeAnxiety [he/him, they/them]
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        3 years ago

        I’d argue that for political crimes (like genocide) the goal isn’t to reduce recidivism but a threat to stop other people doing the same in the future. You don’t really get the chance to do genocide twice.

        • zifnab25 [he/him, any]
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          3 years ago

          If a life sentence for one murder isn't a deterrent, life for a hundred won't be, either.

          Given the relative frequency at which anyone is actually prosecuted for mass murder relative to more banal crimes, I'm fine with limiting overall criminal liability. That's preferable to the US system of trying to tack on unlimited time for every conceivable infraction.

  • emizeko [they/them]
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    3 years ago

    she'll have time to read every word of that huge purple velvet bible

  • Des [she/her, they/them]
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    3 years ago

    damn i got more time from drug possession shit (suspended but still). she deserves punishment even if i'm not for prisons....somebody come up with a better alternative

    • machiabelly [she/her]
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      3 years ago

      Just make her work shitty jobs that nobody else wants to do. If you make these power freaks live as normal people it'll cause plenty of punishment. Prison abolition/left justice is probably my weakest strain of theory though so someone else probably has a better plan.

      :shrug-outta-hecks:

        • machiabelly [she/her]
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          3 years ago

          lmao her coworkers are other neoliberals with a close to retirement prole as their handler

      • Nagarjuna [he/him]
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        3 years ago

        Abolition is partially about breaking the cycle of harm->revenge, and would be opposed to making her do "shitty jobs no one else wants to do"

        It would be more interested in using coercion to get her to heal the harm she did, how you could approach that, IDK.

        • machiabelly [she/her]
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          3 years ago

          What I said is just a snide way of saying community service I think. In a socialist society there would probably be some kind of compulsory service for jobs people dont like. 3 years of your 20s, say. sentencing someone to x years of service labour seems like the closest thing possible to them making it up to society.

          The downside I see is that there could be a situation where those years of service have to be increased to compensate for need. In order to avoid doing something unpopular someone with power could try to increase criminal sentencing. So that only those who "deserve it" have to do the service labour. Which would be backwards and shitty.

          Id be fine with just taking away her power and forcing her to be "normal" too, I dont really know whats best.