This is back-to-brunch liberal locker room talk.

  • ssjmarx [he/him]
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    3 years ago

    What makes me groan the most about this kind of writing is how every single person sounds exactly like a TV/movie nerd who lives in New York. A locker room full of football players might have one person with something funny to say about romantic comedies, but literally everyone else should have been staring at Ted like he was speaking a different language.

    • eduardog3000 [he/him]
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      3 years ago

      That was the joke though, that this entire team of football players have opinions on romcoms.

      And I think it's much better than just having one person. It portrays having interests outside of "manly" stuff as surprisingly common and normal, even among football players. Whereas if it were just one of them, it would basically just be "that one weirdo".

      Or to put it another way: with one person it's jokes on him for being different, with everyone it's jokes on you for having narrow expectations.

      • Huldra [they/them, it/its]
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        3 years ago

        Idk I think in a ton of cases these jokes are still just reinforcing those expectations by driving things into absurdity.

        Like instead of a few guys having these interests and it being fine and normal, its the whole team being into stuff entirely opposite of the usual expectation and the joke is how absurd and unbelievable it is.

    • WELCOMETHRILLHO [comrade/them]
      hexagon
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      3 years ago

      Exactly! This is a sports drama written by people who really don't care that much about sports. It's like if theater kids were put in charge of an athletics program.

  • WELCOMETHRILLHO [comrade/them]
    hexagon
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    3 years ago

    Just realize that 40 years ago the "Hollywood libs" were making "Reds". Now they're making this.

      • Tiocfaidhcaisarla [he/him, comrade/them]
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        3 years ago

        I literally watched it for the first time last week. It is actually pretty good, though yes still obviously American- but it is John Reed's life and I think did a decent job, though heavy on his life and relationship so not all communistic if that makes sense. Has Emma Goldman featured and her criticisms while in Russia, which I have my own opinions about, but then he goes on and basically said what I was thinking, though I do think it was still pandering more to her idealistic view and that kind of gaze generally throughout. It's long and a lot about him and his partner, so just be aware, but I recommend it.

        • snott_morrison [comrade/them]
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          3 years ago

          Nice. When I first heard of it I could hardly believe it existed, let alone was nominated for best picture lol.

      • Satanic_Mills [comrade/them]
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        3 years ago

        The portrayal of the leftist millieu Reed and Bryant move around in Greenwich village near the beginning of the film is suggested as being mostly populated with downwardly mobile bourgeois dilletants who flitter between competing strands of thought like changing fashions.

        So it's very accurate.

      • WELCOMETHRILLHO [comrade/them]
        hexagon
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        3 years ago

        I genuinely like it- Hollywood had a run in the late 70s and early 80s of really bloated, overlong prestige movies and this was one of the last of them, but if you have a few hours to spend it is pretty good. Warren Beatty had live interviews with real people spliced throughout which is pretty cool because it helps sort of shade in what is otherwise a historical drama (like Titanic) but based on historical figures. It's not perfect, but for the time it was made (and the times we are in now), it's solid. You can do a double feature and watch "October (Ten Days that Shook the World)" afterwards, which is based on the book Reed wrote during the Revolution.

  • Spike [none/use name]
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    3 years ago

    This is the writing that gets you 8.7/10 on IMDB and 94% on Rotten Tomatoes?

  • eduardog3000 [he/him]
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    3 years ago

    Ehh, they used "communist" for the shock value (though its shock value is definitely being overplayed) and mainly for the pun, but overall it didn't really have anything to do with communism or try to make any commentary about it. Just a dumb joke, if you had the exact same scene but took out him calling it "rom-communism", it would still have the same meaning and would better.

    • nat_turner_overdrive [he/him]
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      3 years ago

      also in the scene the assistant coach has :sicko-wholesome: face when lasso first says communism, then looks disappointed when he says "rom-communism"

      people just want to be mad at popular kind of bland tv shows

  • regul [any]
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    3 years ago

    Must suck to be too irony-poisoned to enjoy things.