The photo is of a hardcore antivaxer who took ivermectin and then died.
The drawing is a picture of a horse by the immortal artist Lisa Frank.
The photo is of a hardcore antivaxer who took ivermectin and then died.
The drawing is a picture of a horse by the immortal artist Lisa Frank.
Fucking thank you.
Is it so important to you to celebrate people dying from what is certainly a structural condition rather than a personal responsibility choice. Pointing out their hypocrisy of dying is not going to get them next time.
I guess we just see their position in this situation differently. I think they are victims literally being murdered by the system that they can't escape. And sure, they are doing bad by spreading the virus and they suck shit for that, but they are also doing what they have been told is best for fighting the disease.
You seem to think that they are subhuman rats spreading disease specifically to vulnerable populations.
Curbing the spread of disease is serious, but I think it's a failure of the system when even the unvaccinated die from the disease. They should be locked down, not dead.
:lmayo: plague rats 🐀
Tell me the name of the mass shooter who had a good reason. Some nuanced point, some well-considered position, any justification which overrides the actual observable material impact of their actions.
They all have a stupid reason. They all want validation for that reason. They want to be valued despite the effect they have. That effect is being a feral person who destroys everything around them.
If someone shoots a mass shooter during their spree, fucking lol. The only difference here is that they don't even need to carry a gun to kill more people for the same ideological goal. Their daily existence is terrorism and their enablers only reward them for it. The only thing you'll get for your tolerance is one of them giving you the virus and then saying you don't deserve healthcare.
If they don't want all of this to happen, it takes five minutes to get the shot. That's what is at stake. Human lives or a slight inconvenience. Pick your side.
They should be locked down, not dead
Is that a practical option? Given that they're selling vaccine passports to each other, disbelieving in the virus, refusing to get tested when they get it, and infecting all of the people they break normal protocols to interact with before it kills them, do you think that's even on the table? From the state or federal governments that can't make them wear masks or get a vaccine? From the antimasker/antivax police threatening to resign if they're mandated to get it? From the military that now has to threaten to discharge its right wingers en masse because they refuse to get it?
I didn't say the choice was pretty. That's the choice. These are the clearly defined sides and one of them obviously gets you or someone you care about killed. The other kills someone who chose to die. Are you going to solve the trolley problem by starting the trolley, running ahead of it, and tying yourself to the track that has the most people on it?
It seems you are attempting to make a "realist" rationalization of why you're happy that this guy died. You are saying that because our government and health care actions are so ineffective, that it's actually something to celebrate that this guy was killed?
I'm finding this rationale is lazy. In the case that the government was actually able to implement real lockdowns, providing food and rent relief for those that are kept indoors, do these people still deserve to die? Like, in China's response to the pandemic, these people would either be vaccinated, or they would be kept indoors. There wouldn't be this option to literally kill themselves because of misinformation.
If they would be alive if the government weren't supporting their decisions to take ivermectin and go about transmitting covid, isn't it the government who is responsible not only for their death, but also for their transmitting covid?
I have a hard time with your personal responsibility take.
No, I'm saying that because he is a terrorist I'm glad he's dead. If he sneezed in a jar and then threw that jar at the ground it would be a bioweapon. If he sneezed on a blanket and gave that blanket to you it would be a bioweapon. He encouraged others to sneeze onto everything and had the obvious result everyone told him would happen. With as much mental autonomy as you have.
I fully recognise that there are failures at all level of government. That this hog voted for. The healthcare system is a moral abomination and guess who voted for it. His life up until this point was creating the mousetrap and then he spent his final year trying to convince people to eat the mysterious cheese before taking a bite himself. His personal responsibility is only the same you face when you wash your hands, put on a face mask or a seat belt, click one google result over the other. The most basic shit he chose at every turn to not do, specifically to risk your life. I can hate the government as well as the people who enable it at the same time. I can hate an ideology and the people who reinforce it at the level on which I exist. If you don't, what is the obvious result of this person spending another day walking around? How many innocent people are you willing to murder to preserve this plague rat? Knowing how hard he's worked to eat the cheese and force you to. This is not some abstract moral puzzle for old white dandies to jerk themselves off over. This is an immediate threat to your life and to any population you could claim to be protecting by enabling antivaxxers. Fuck the people they vote for but those aren't the people sending their children to school with yours. Their parents don't go into the nursing homes yours will. It's this guy and every carrier like him.
As far as it's not an abstract moral puzzle - which part. That there are people who have literally been tricked into spreading misinformation and disease, or the part that you choose to celebrate that used person's death?
I get what you're saying. I don't have to be happy that a person is dead now that would be alive under a different system. This is not a person welding money and power, this is not a terrorist, this is a brainwashed dummy who is a victim of the system. Literally all saying is rebelling in their death, regardless how ironic you see it being, is blue maga lib shit.
I am kind of suprised to see you suggest that the answer is to :vote: better.
Which doesn't matter when the result is that they're actively spreading a disease. Nazi shit tricks mass shooters into committing massacres but we don't absolve them by pretending they're an impressionable baby. When they die it's a net gain at every level of the system I'm still free to condemn without their obstruction. This plague rat absolutely is a terrorist because he is purposely spreading a fatal disease. Any erasure there just makes you complicit in that. Maybe your fucking around won't result in finding out.
Look dude, if you don't understand the power of propaganda and the generational legacy of white supremacy and neoliberalism has wrought on the us fine, but like, don't tell me I have to be happy that someone is dead, especially when they were not the instigator nor fundamental cause of continuing poor conditions due to covid. That's clearly the people in power and the people with money.
Blaming anyone who is not bourgeoisie for the mess we're in is falling for pro bourgeoisie propaganda.
Feel free to go express that working class solidarity in r/nonewnormal. See if they think you're human and watch as they kill more.
What are you talking about? Me, not celebrating the death of a victim of capitalism, is somehow not human? You, celebrating the death of a non-bourgeoisie, is somehow a champion of worker solidarity?
Edit: I just looked up what nonewnormal is. I'm not on Reddit so I had no idea. You think I'm an antivaxxer? Not at all the case. Everyone should be vaccinated that can be, and those that can't be should be locked down and supported by the state.
Just because I refuse to be happy about the death of a rube doesn't make me an antivaxxer, it makes me not a fucking monster. I think the government needs to step up, and every preventable death that is a result of shitty government policies is a sad one.
Anyway I was waiting to spring this on you. https://mobile.twitter.com/RonFilipkowski/status/1432114945953501188/photo/1
That's Robert David Steele, former marine and ex-CIA agent. He's a recurring Infowars guest most famous for his antivaxxer and Sandy Hook denialism conspiracies.
In your quest to be the most enlightened pacifist, there's the company you keep Hogfucker.
"Spring" that on me? You again are saying I support antivaxxers, so go fuck yourself.
All I'm saying is that applauding the death of someone who has been mentally abused by the state to death is missing the systemic causes of this.
There are a hundred million antivaxxers in the USA. It seems that you would prefer to kill every one of them. I am saying no, it's a systemic issue.
Clearly you do support them given that you enable them. This is the kind of hog you support. Enjoy your new comrade because I don't trust your judgement enough to consider you one.
Ultimately, your ideology on this, happiness at the death of this person, is wishing for the deaths of 100 million Americans. If this doesn't seem like a systemic issue to you, I really don't know what to say.
I really don't understand your jump (unless you are just being a troll) from not being joyful over a person's death, to supporting antivaxxers.
So, overall, you are either really dumb, or not being serious, so this has been an extreme waste of time.