There's no way this is America's last invasion or nation-building project, but I appreciate someone in power even suggesting it could and should end. (Christ what a low bar...)

  • fuckwit [none/use name]
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    3 years ago

    When did Bush say nation building is over? When he started two wars in one term?

    • SolidaritySplodarity [they/them]
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      3 years ago

      Bush was famously against nation-building in his 2000 campaign. He promised a domestic focus with "compassionate conservativism". This is the quote most people point to: "I don't think our troops ought to be used for what's called nation-building. I think our troops ought to be used to fight and win war."

      Check out this C-SPAN video to get yourself some jokerification cackles: https://www.c-span.org/video/?c4315725/user-clip-george-w-bush-nation-building

      • eduardog3000 [he/him]
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        3 years ago

        To Biden's credit (🤢) he's actually doing it while in office, whereas George Bush just said it to get elected.

        Not that he's necessarily gonna keep doing it. We could be at war with Iran in a year, who knows.

        • SolidaritySplodarity [they/them]
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          3 years ago

          Sure but also it's just a sentiment. It can easily be discarded with any number of pretenses. Americans are bloodthirsty and Biden has a weird but still imperialist past on foreign policy.

          Not saying you should expect Iraq Part 2: This Time it's North Korea. I just wouldn't put much stock in these words.

          • fuckwit [none/use name]
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            3 years ago

            i mean it’s not sentiment when he literally just withdrew.

            Won’t deny that further imperialism can happen but a bit much to equivocate what Bush did with this.

            • SolidaritySplodarity [they/them]
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              3 years ago

              The comparable betrayal would be for Biden et al to invade another country under the premise of transforming it into a preferable one via occupation and institution of a new government. We won't know that he has failed this comparison until after his term.

              Biden's words aren't, "we just left a nation", it's a generalization about doing no more nation-building.