• regul [any]
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    3 years ago

    Universal programs like this are progressive for the same reason sales taxes are regressive. This is by and large true of all universal programs. In addition, they are cheaper to administer and get support from wealthier more politically engaged people and are therefore more likely to survive.

    • hexaflexagonbear [he/him]
      hexagon
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      3 years ago

      That's the thing I never understood about penny pinching means tested programs. Even if people cheat the system, you'll need multiple bureaucracies to implement the means testing, do audits, and do enforcement for people breaking the rules, then you need to involve the legal system. How much money could you possibly be saving at the end of that?

      • steve5487 [none/use name]
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        3 years ago

        How much money could you possibly be saving at the end of that

        It's not about saving money it's about not being perceived to be being taken advantage of. It doesn't work because everyone totally knows somebody that knows somebody that exploits welfare

      • regul [any]
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        3 years ago

        lots of smaller metros in the US (that have transit at all) are realizing that so few people ride the buses it's cheaper to just not charge fares

        • bigboopballs [he/him]
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          3 years ago

          I sure wish my local area would do that. Bus fare is fucking stupid.

      • bigboopballs [he/him]
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        3 years ago

        Even if people cheat the system, you’ll need multiple bureaucracies to implement the means testing, do audits, and do enforcement for people breaking the rules, then you need to involve the legal system. How much money could you possibly be saving at the end of that?

        It may be hard to believe, but the cruelty is in fact the point. They would rather eg. pay $70k per year or whatever the fuck it costs to keep someone in jail for a year versus $15k per year to give someone enough welfare to barely scrape by.