Milton Friedman once said that the “society that puts equality before freedom will end up with neither”. He was right.

Aspects of liberalism go against the grain of human nature. It requires you to defend your opponents’ right to speak, even when you know they are wrong. You must be willing to question your deepest beliefs.

You must accept the victory of your enemies at the ballot box, even if you think they will bring the country to ruin.

  • Castor_Troy [comrade/them,he/him]
    hexagon
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    3 years ago

    Hmm that's not actually how I was thinking. But this makes a lot of sense. Thanks for working through all of this with me.

    • captcha [any]
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      3 years ago

      I think my point is there are no "wings" of fascism. Just many different ideologies that will become fascist under certain conditions. Fascism isn't so much a coherent ideology but a set of behviours.

      • Castor_Troy [comrade/them,he/him]
        hexagon
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        3 years ago

        Hmm, where does this view of fascism come from? Is that the Bolshevik view of fascism? It seems unique to me. I'm basically on board with the first two sentences, but the last sentence I would push back on. For starters, that view of fascism is essentially the starting point for how people argue that Anti-Fa is actually fascist. I would say it is precisely what is in their heads that make Anti-Fa not fascists and the Proud Boys fascists. If you look at Umberto Eco's writing on fascism, it describes it as more of a psychological or ideological phenomenon.

        • captcha [any]
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          3 years ago

          This is the "fascism is capitalism in crisis" explanation of fascism, which is from Lenin (edit: he probably didn't say this himself. More likely the Bolsheviks just attributed it to him). The "antifa is actually fascism" argument is done by striping their behaviors out of context.

          Is that the Bolshevik view of fascism?

          It sounds like your being dogmatic or orthodox here. Hate to sound like a lib but you gotta think for yourself sometimes. That's what all the great revolutionaries did.