I had a gf in college whose best friend was complaining about her boyfriend getting "obsessed" with some "psychology self help guy". I asked if it was Jordan Peterson, she said she didn't know, then I asked if he had the 12 rules for life book, and she said that was the one!
Afterwards I told my gf "they're gonna break up within 3 months". I was wrong. It was only 2 😌
my girlfriend was really weirded out. Because I cried a little bit there and there were other men crying too
Yeah, that's what weirded her out, definitely not the fact that he's an obvious misogynist and you are too since you worship him, and she's, well, your girlfriend.
Every single sentence of that post is quote-worthy. You can think about it however many times you want.
I have my own story of meeting a 'Jordan Peterson' guy
One time in college there was this kinda scruffy looking guy in one of my classes who showed up late and never did his assignments, and then he would sit next to me and whenever he would get called out to answer a question he would try to leech off of my answers. It got so bad the lecturer actually sent him home because he hadn't done his assignments at all a couple weeks in a row.
So the next year i see this guy again in a lecture, but this time he has his hair slicked back, and he's wearing a tucked-in dress shirt. Occasionally he would ask these really detailed, slightly off-topic questions about the material. All in all it did seem like he got his act together a bit and had done the reading. Anyway, one thing that should have tipped me off was when he mentioned he was "kinda conservative" himself, but at the time I didn't really think much of it. What made me eventually realize what had happened to this guy was when during a lecture he asked a question that involved the 'Big Five' personality traits (a Peterson favorite). This poor guy must have found some of Peterson's stuff, "gotten his act together", meanwhile dooming him to a life of being insufferable. :sadness: i cri everitiem
It did not go as well as I hoped. Let me give you a bit of a back story. I am using a throwaway because my girlfriend knows my main Reddit.
I found out about Jordan Peterson about a year ago and since then I became a huge fan. I was never a big reader, but I got all of his books. (They are the only books on my bookshelf and also a book about John F. Kennedy my aunt gave me but I never read. So I don't have many books and its a small shelf.)
I am 19 years old now. I met my girlfriend when we were 17 in high school. When I was 18 I moved out and began to go to the local university. My girlfriend is the same age as I am and she started classes there too.
When I moved out is around the time I started reading Dr. Peterson's work and I took the battle against chaos to heart. Mostly because I was a very messy person before. So I kept my new room very clean (I have a roommate who helps) and I was finally able to decorate it the way that I wanted since I moved out. Mostly I kept it simple and tasteful but I also have a big poster of Dr. Peterson in my room. When I began to see how important Dr. Peterson had become in my life I started trying to get my girlfriend interested. But she did not seem very interested.
I thought he could help her a lot, because when we met and she lived at home she was a very messy and chaotic person also. We both were then. Since she moved out also and got a roommate it has gotten even worse for her. I would say her room is about fifty percent messier than it was.
She is slouching a lot. She is also very disorganized with her classes and note taking (somehow she is still getting all As, I got all As too my first semester but I also got two Cs). I can't even read or understand the notes she takes for her class. I tried to tell her to be more organized and less chaotic with it, that it would help her more, but I think it got annoying for her to hear it.
Anyway when we would hang out I would try to get her to listen to Dr. Peterson's lectures but it always seemed like a chore or like she didn't really want to. I found it really frustrating because he was so inspiring for me. Eventually I stopped putting them on because I would hear and see her sigh in an exaggerated way when I would put YouTube on with his lectures.
Not long ago it was coming up on the day that we met (our anniversary) and we had a nice dinner at a seafood place we both really like. A few days later I got us tickets to see Dr. Peterson speak. I had hoped that it would be better than the videos. She seemed excited to go and we had a nice night together.
The next day we didn't talk, which is normal these days with school and stuff. I sent her a text message the day after and she didn't respond which I thought was weird. Then I did it the day after and still no response. She didn't write back to me for four days! Until I sent her a long message just asking for an explanation for why she ghosted me or at least let me know she is okay.
A few days later she finally sent me a long email. She said that she wanted some space and that she needed to think. That things were changing and that they weren't the same as they were. She actually blamed Dr. Peterson for changing me! Which is true but I thought I changed for the better. She said I was being really strict with the cleanliness now and that I was saying too much about her being messy. That I wasn't fun any more. And also she said that she wanted to see other people and that she wasn't sure I was the person she wanted to be with forever in a relationship. This was very disappointing to see her go against monogamous relationships.
That isn't all though. I talked to a mutual friend of ours and she told me some things really candidly. Our friend said that after seeing Jordan Peterson in person my girlfriend was really weirded out. Because I cried a little bit there and there were other men crying too. (I didn't think this was fair, there is no shame in crying.) Also that she felt like following Dr. Peterson's advice made me kind of less fun and more boring than how I was when we met at 17. Basically that she thought I became a little too "obsessed" with him.
She also said that my girlfriend thought some of the things Dr. Peterson said about relationships were chauvinistic and unrealistic. And then she (not my girlfriend but our friend) said she researched Dr. Peterson and that he hated women and kind of scolded me. I told her that was just SJW/Cultural Marxist propaganda, that Dr. Peterson wasn't really like that and she just didn't understand him. She said I was "talking down" to her and that is why my girlfriend left me. (I don't think she left me she never said she didn't want to see me any more btw.)
Anyway what do I do? How do I fix this and get our friend and my girlfriend to be okay with Dr. Peterson?
And mostly for the wrong reasons too, which is hilarious. One guy saying she left because crying revealed him to be a beta male, another saying it's because he was being controlling (correct) despite her getting better grades than him (so if she didn't, he would have been within his rights to?).
Absolutely everyone involved from the OP to the subreddit is roller backpack kids, and I award them all the Friedman Medal🏅for being uncognizant dorks of the highest order.
I tried reading 12 rules for life purely out of academic interest and I just couldn't listen to this insufferable prick, stopped just 3 rules in after "[he] had taken some job lawn mowing and casual landscaping, which would have been fine for a part-time university student, or for someone who could not do better, but which was wretchedly low-end as a career for an intelligent person".
Was what where he was talking about his alcoholic Native American friend? I also couldn't really stick it out in that book. It's just a lot of rambling nonsense. Even the first paragraph where he talks about how delicious lobsters are grossed me out.
It's when he's shitting on some guy in his hometown for not going to college, and this guy apparently turned up stoned to Peterson's college house with his also stoned friend who does gardening, and this is all apparently disappointing and uncultured. In his audiobook (pirated from the high seas, obv) he reads the section with such disgust in his voice, it was awful
Wow that guy could definitely benefit from squaring his shoulders and pissing out of his own eyeballs.
Importing the JP audiobook into Audacity so that I can pitch-shift it to be bearable before listening.
I love the "she has bad notes, so she shouldn't get grades" portion. That's just envy and a want for his girlfriend to be dumber.
