The US powers that be know that US infrastructure is held together with scotch tape and chewing gum, and that building additional hospitals would be nearly impossible and this is why they opposed free at the point of delivery healthcare, because they knew it would collapse the system. Private healthcare is kept in place as a rationing mechanism. So when they said M4A would result in a reduced standard of care, it was in good faith. The system cannot be reformed.
sorry Im a bit confused. What ur saying is, the powers that be are denying free healthcare because they know that the american populace doesnt really take good care of itself and would use up the system so much it would collapse.
building additional hospitals would be nearly impossible
I'm saying that the US can't build public goods because neoliberalism destroyed the developmental state, and so they cannot build more hospitals, the state just isn't capable.
So if the poor people who are denied healthcare now started seeking it, it would put too much strain on the system.
I've been thinking similiar things, I just didn't make the connection to healthcare. I've been thinking sometimes that a lot of the disasters we've seen recently aren't just calculated cruelty coming from top down, it could just be that these guys have been huffing so many of their own farts over the last decade we've ended up with a clique of entirely stupid and out of touch ideologues. It very well could be that isn't that we won't do good things, but the entire state has been hollowed out and can no longer do anything but dispense violence. Look at how awesome our cops are at putting down dissent.
This gives them way too much credit. They're preventing us from having healthcare because it makes us easier to exploit at work. No additional explanation necessary
I think we can build things, although not quickly. I think they're preventing good things from happening because it lifts a weight from their class enemies, us.
Not self preservation in the form of maintaining the system ie in Europe but self preservation in the form of not being able to muster the material to provide Europe-style healthcare and hiding it with Yankee Freedom™️. I don't know if that makes a difference for us on an organising standpoint but I could believe it. America is really bad at building stuff, barring maybe bombs and prisons.
That is indeed true for the democrat left, there's a certain inertia to public policy and M4A would've made things worse by quickly increasing demand before eventually making them better, and since democrats are pusilanimous cowards, they'd much rather not do anything at all before doing anything that could mean an improvement down the road and receive heavy pushback.
Conspiracy theory:
The US powers that be know that US infrastructure is held together with scotch tape and chewing gum, and that building additional hospitals would be nearly impossible and this is why they opposed free at the point of delivery healthcare, because they knew it would collapse the system. Private healthcare is kept in place as a rationing mechanism. So when they said M4A would result in a reduced standard of care, it was in good faith. The system cannot be reformed.
sorry Im a bit confused. What ur saying is, the powers that be are denying free healthcare because they know that the american populace doesnt really take good care of itself and would use up the system so much it would collapse.
Could you expand on this?
I'm saying that the US can't build public goods because neoliberalism destroyed the developmental state, and so they cannot build more hospitals, the state just isn't capable.
So if the poor people who are denied healthcare now started seeking it, it would put too much strain on the system.
I've been thinking similiar things, I just didn't make the connection to healthcare. I've been thinking sometimes that a lot of the disasters we've seen recently aren't just calculated cruelty coming from top down, it could just be that these guys have been huffing so many of their own farts over the last decade we've ended up with a clique of entirely stupid and out of touch ideologues. It very well could be that isn't that we won't do good things, but the entire state has been hollowed out and can no longer do anything but dispense violence. Look at how awesome our cops are at putting down dissent.
This gives them way too much credit. They're preventing us from having healthcare because it makes us easier to exploit at work. No additional explanation necessary
That's not a conspiracy that's exactly what is happening.
I think we can build things, although not quickly. I think they're preventing good things from happening because it lifts a weight from their class enemies, us.
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Not self preservation in the form of maintaining the system ie in Europe but self preservation in the form of not being able to muster the material to provide Europe-style healthcare and hiding it with Yankee Freedom™️. I don't know if that makes a difference for us on an organising standpoint but I could believe it. America is really bad at building stuff, barring maybe bombs and prisons.
That is indeed true for the democrat left, there's a certain inertia to public policy and M4A would've made things worse by quickly increasing demand before eventually making them better, and since democrats are pusilanimous cowards, they'd much rather not do anything at all before doing anything that could mean an improvement down the road and receive heavy pushback.