• Quimby [any, any]
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    3 years ago

    shit. ok. uh... critical support?

    I didn't notice that. edited the title. money worship bad. individually chosen gender expression good.

    • FidelCastro [he/him]
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      3 years ago

      effeminacy

      If I remember correctly, the “effeminacy” thing China has been gunning against isn’t about gender expression as much as “idol culture”. I’ll see if I can find the threads I was reading on that from a queer activist in China.

      As is typical, the western media happily jumped on trying to use this as a propaganda angle. The thread I was reading had some criticism of other policies because China isn’t a utopia, but it was pretty clear on the intent there.

      Edit: Found it. Thread on the topic from our comrades over at r/GenZedong.

      Another twitter thread on the topic.

      Hexbear thread from Alaskaball

      • aaro [they/them, she/her]
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        3 years ago

        I think that's a bit too charitable. Critical support means you have to actually acknowledge flaws as a part of recognition that a project is overall good but isn't perfect.

        https://www.vice.com/en/article/xgx3nn/china-masculinity-sissy-stars

        It's vice, so take it as you will, but remember that critical support requires occasional criticism. It's unreasonable to expect China to be culturally progressive on pace with the most culturally progressive of Western nations, remember that they haven't even legalized same sex marriage or adoption for same sex couples. BUT, they're on good pace, and for that they deserve critical support. But that doesn't mean we should ignore those faults.

        • FidelCastro [he/him]
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          3 years ago

          Agree with you on the definition of critical support. There are plenty of areas to critique China on, including aspects of LGBTQ+ rights, which is why I made sure to reiterate that they’re not a utopia.

          Part of critical support is also understanding the context one is critiquing, which is the intent of what I posted. Defaulting to “china wants to ban all fem bois” is reductive and also not accurate here imo.

          That Vice article is unfortunately repeating many of the same talking points as other outlets, which I’m unsurprised by since Rupert Murdoch’s son is on Vice’s board.

          Regardless, being willing to discuss the flaws of a socialist project is important.