I still don't know who buys it. The numbers are so big, but I don't know what is the demographic that listens to it. I don't have a picture in my mind of the person who listens to pop music. It's a blank space.

Maybe I live in a weird bubble (half of the roommates I've had were musicians), but the only time I've ever seen someone intentionally, deliberately listen to pop music was at work when managers put on some on Bluetooth speakers. I guess it's a thing managers do, I've seen it quite a few times.