• Guy_Dudeman [comrade/them,he/him]
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        3 years ago

        Do you believe there is any acceptable number of people who can die to protect a socialist project?

        No, there is no acceptable number.

        do you know how many died in China? None.

        LOL. If you believe that, I've got a bridge to sell you. And a vacation home in florida.

        Capitalism is an ideology of death and the cost of inaction is unconscionable.

        I completely agree with you on this.

        • Swoosegoose [he/him]
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          3 years ago

          How can you agree that inaction is unconscionable, and then claim that there is no acceptable amount of bloodshed to protect a socialist project? Capitalists have and will continue to engage in tremendous bloodshed to destroy socialist projects, the only way to respond is with bloodshed, you cant peacefully protest an invasion or color revolution. You are saying that inaction is unconscionable but that no action that will inevitably need to be taken can be acceptable, it doesn't make sense.

          • Guy_Dudeman [comrade/them,he/him]
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            3 years ago

            Capitalists have and will continue to engage in tremendous bloodshed to destroy socialist projects, the only way to respond is with bloodshed

            I disagree.

            • Swoosegoose [he/him]
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              3 years ago

              Ok, so you are now 100% confirmed a troll, you have :bait: me expertly

              • Guy_Dudeman [comrade/them,he/him]
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                3 years ago

                I'm not trolling. I'm just telling you how I see it. I don't think we'll get anywhere with this conversation.

                Is it that difficult for you to understand that there are people out there who disagree with your assertion that violence is the only way to solve this issue?

                • Swoosegoose [he/him]
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                  3 years ago

                  Explain to me in detail how the Vietnamese government should have responded to french occupation and U.S invasion without violence, explain to me how the Batista regime could be overthrown without violence, and how the bay of pigs invasion could be repelled without violence. Explain to me how the USSR should have responded to nazi genocide without violence.

                  • Guy_Dudeman [comrade/them,he/him]
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                    3 years ago

                    I never said that all violence is never justified. There are obviously times when it is. You and I happen to disagree about a few specific instances.

                    I think you and I would both agree that the populous of Vietnam should have probably fought back against the French when they came to colonize Vietnam. If they had, the future of the entirety of Asia and the rest of the colonized world and colonialism itself may have been changed forever, and you and I might not even need to be having this conversation right now.

                    Obviously I'm not an expert on southeast asian history, but from what I understand, Vietnam was a monarchy/empire before the french arrived, and a relatively weak one, apparently. The people should have been able to rise up before the French even got there, to take power from the monarchs themselves. But that very idea was foreign to them, and it seems they were relatively satisfied with the status-quo before the French got there.

                    So, I guess the best course of action for everyone is to just leave everyone alone? I don't know. There's a lot I don't know.

          • Guy_Dudeman [comrade/them,he/him]
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            3 years ago

            You would choose to allow the capitalist to murder?

            No. I wouldn't.

            So you actually believe China's capitalist government line that "zero" people died in China from Covid? Why are you allowing yourself to be so gullible?