Anything that makes congresspeople afraid is good, even if the people making them afraid are bad and doing it for the wrong reasons. What is the downside? It's just right-wing infighting
The downside is that you're critically supporting fascists. I don't support some white ethnostate freak threatening to kill democrats, even critically.
All that does is terrorize the general population, and fascist terrorism is bad, actually.
Right-wing infighting is self-evidently good for the left. Fascists murdering other fascists is a good thing, there's no reason not to support it.
The general population isnt gonna be targeted by the same people targeting congresspeople. I'd argue the perpetrators of those two types of crimes do not overlap. If they do start to overlap, that's when the support ends, obviously
Right-wing infighting is self-evidently good for the left.
This does not translate to "critical support to fascists killing liberal politicians" what are you on.
The general population isnt gonna be targeted by the same people targeting congresspeople. I’d argue the perpetrators of those two types of crimes do not overlap. If they do start to overlap, that’s when the support ends, obviously
The intent is obviously to spread fear to "democrats", do you thin hogs can tell the difference. "My critical support will continue until I realize the incredibly obvious consequences of fascist violence."
Liberals are the moderate wing of fascism. Fascists killing fascists is the definition of infighting.
Fair point about the effect on the general population, maybe I'm underestimating how afraid regular people would be when they hear that some ghouls in Congress got merked
Fair point about the effect on the general population, maybe I’m underestimating how afraid regular people would be when they hear that some ghouls in Congress got merked
You definitely are. Fear is the point with shit like this.
And yes, liberals enable fascism. Which is why if a fascist killed a liberal politician who had enabled them, I wouldn't cry over it - fucking around and finding out and all that.
That doesn't translate to "supporting" fascists in any way.
Well that's what I meant originally when I said critical support. My support in this instance doesn't go any further than saying "lmao owned" on the hexbear thread about it and moving on with my day
That's not critical support. This is the like the Ashley Babbit struggle session yesterday - people laughing at her aren't (and shouldn't be) supporting the cops.
Fascists - you do not, under any circumstances, have to hand it to them.
And yeah, critical support is for guys like Assad, not random fascists killing other enemies.
Edit: the other thing is that yes, liberalism creates the conditions for fascism and leads to it. However, that doesn't mean that fascists killing liberals is a positive development. It's indicative of a growing strength of fascism which is, of course, bad for the proletariat.
The draconian security practices are gonna happen regardless. They'll always find an excuse for doing whatever they want to do. If it's not right wing infighting, it'll be Muslim terrorists or the Chinese or some other bullshit. The right-wing infighting does not cause the draconian security practices
So you think it’s good that a GOP rep who voted to impeach trump just retired because of constant death threats and now an even more right wing GOP chud will replace him?
That’s the practical effect of all these reactionary threats and violence: they get more power.
It's unambiguously good that bad people are afraid for their lives, yes. The practical effect of literally everything in American society is more power accruing to reactionaries, it's a reactionary society to the core
I want people’s lives to be as good as possible so i think it’s good to have the least reactionary people in office so things can be marginally better since there’s no revolution in the horizon right now.
I guess it is accelerationism, in some sense. The acceleration is happening whether we want it to or not, so we might as well enjoy what little comforts it offers us, eg, congresspeople living in fear for their lives.
I also want people's lives to be as good as possible, and having less reactionary people in office might help do that, but that's not going to happen. Ever. America is turning right and it's going to keep turning right until it doesn't exist anymore. Dancing on the graves of the politicians who get merked by right wing psychos is one of the few pleasures this offers us, so I don't see any virtue in abstaining from it
Yeah critical support to [checks notes] mostly reactionaries???
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Reactionaries who kill our enemies are good insofar as they kill our enemies, even if they are also shitheada. Hence critical support
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Everyone who disagrees with me is a fed. I am very intelligent.
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this is actually true, unironically
Critical support to Mussolini for marching on Rome? You gotta be careful with this logic dude.
Lone wolf freaks killing congresspeople is not comparable to a literal army marching on a capital city. You know this.
I also would not critically support random blackshirts assassinating German politicians in the 20s.
You do not, in fact, have to hand it to 'em.
Anything that makes congresspeople afraid is good, even if the people making them afraid are bad and doing it for the wrong reasons. What is the downside? It's just right-wing infighting
The downside is that you're critically supporting fascists. I don't support some white ethnostate freak threatening to kill democrats, even critically.
All that does is terrorize the general population, and fascist terrorism is bad, actually.
Right-wing infighting is self-evidently good for the left. Fascists murdering other fascists is a good thing, there's no reason not to support it.
The general population isnt gonna be targeted by the same people targeting congresspeople. I'd argue the perpetrators of those two types of crimes do not overlap. If they do start to overlap, that's when the support ends, obviously
This does not translate to "critical support to fascists killing liberal politicians" what are you on.
The intent is obviously to spread fear to "democrats", do you thin hogs can tell the difference. "My critical support will continue until I realize the incredibly obvious consequences of fascist violence."
Liberals are the moderate wing of fascism. Fascists killing fascists is the definition of infighting.
Fair point about the effect on the general population, maybe I'm underestimating how afraid regular people would be when they hear that some ghouls in Congress got merked
You definitely are. Fear is the point with shit like this.
And yes, liberals enable fascism. Which is why if a fascist killed a liberal politician who had enabled them, I wouldn't cry over it - fucking around and finding out and all that.
That doesn't translate to "supporting" fascists in any way.
Well that's what I meant originally when I said critical support. My support in this instance doesn't go any further than saying "lmao owned" on the hexbear thread about it and moving on with my day
That's not critical support. This is the like the Ashley Babbit struggle session yesterday - people laughing at her aren't (and shouldn't be) supporting the cops.
Fascists - you do not, under any circumstances, have to hand it to them.
I didn't see that struggle session so idk what you're reference specifically so I guess I'm just using the phrase critical support wrong, sorry
Good for you, honestly. Wish I hadn't. :yea:
And yeah, critical support is for guys like Assad, not random fascists killing other enemies.
Edit: the other thing is that yes, liberalism creates the conditions for fascism and leads to it. However, that doesn't mean that fascists killing liberals is a positive development. It's indicative of a growing strength of fascism which is, of course, bad for the proletariat.
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Because Assad is
a) not a fascist
b) the leader of an independent country, and leader of the political force which keeps it stable and livable for its inhabitants
c) resisting american imperialism, which is related to point b
Look to Libya or Iraq for examples of what would happen if America unseated his government.
Why would you even compare him to a random rabid American chud? The question isn't "what's the difference", it's "what's the similarity".
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The draconian security practices are gonna happen regardless. They'll always find an excuse for doing whatever they want to do. If it's not right wing infighting, it'll be Muslim terrorists or the Chinese or some other bullshit. The right-wing infighting does not cause the draconian security practices
So you think it’s good that a GOP rep who voted to impeach trump just retired because of constant death threats and now an even more right wing GOP chud will replace him?
That’s the practical effect of all these reactionary threats and violence: they get more power.
It's unambiguously good that bad people are afraid for their lives, yes. The practical effect of literally everything in American society is more power accruing to reactionaries, it's a reactionary society to the core
Is this accelerationism?
I want people’s lives to be as good as possible so i think it’s good to have the least reactionary people in office so things can be marginally better since there’s no revolution in the horizon right now.
I guess it is accelerationism, in some sense. The acceleration is happening whether we want it to or not, so we might as well enjoy what little comforts it offers us, eg, congresspeople living in fear for their lives.
I also want people's lives to be as good as possible, and having less reactionary people in office might help do that, but that's not going to happen. Ever. America is turning right and it's going to keep turning right until it doesn't exist anymore. Dancing on the graves of the politicians who get merked by right wing psychos is one of the few pleasures this offers us, so I don't see any virtue in abstaining from it
You’re probably right but that doesn’t bode well for our survival. You may be celebrating cutting off your nose to spite your face.
Yeah, our survival is fucked. I guess celebrating this type of thing is a coping mechanism of mine.
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