The 1st amendment says I’m allowed to post this.
insert marx quote about guns
It becomes a problem when your entire society or image is based around it. Or when there are so many school shootings they aren’t even in the news anymore. Or when the arms manufacturers keep producing them to sell to citizens and use that is a justification to sell more equipment and guns to the police.
No no I didn’t mean to make it sound like you were making an anti gun comment. I agree with you about the 2a. You’re saying the same things I say to people.
Or when your society has highly criminogenic levels of wealth inequality, alienates people so badly that some of them just snap, is propped up by an ideology with all the semiotics of fascism (including the "gun = penis" part) and tries to keep all of that under control by waging a low-scale war on its own populace.
In other words, having conditions that don't turn people into murderers is a fairly huge part of gun safety.
they aren’t even in the news anymore.
If the media stopped salivating over them and stopped dropping everything else to do live coverage as they stick cameras and mics in victims' faces, that would be a good thing.
You’re right. But at what point does not reporting on them seem as though they are “hiding” them for lack of a better term? They are still happening of course.
My sincere answer to that question is "don't know, don't care." The pendulum was on the other side for too long and if it's finally swinging back towards the media not bathing in the blood of these shootings, I'm not yet ready to start questioning that.
I don’t expect you to have the answer. My point is just that it is complicated. You’re right that our media bathes in it and just use it to gather more views and attention, but for all the wrong reasons.
I don’t agree with what you say, but I’ll fight to the death for your right to say it.
No one actually believes in freedom of speech, leftists are just honest about it. The bourgeoisie certainly don't, their usage of the rhetoric is entirely cynical; the first law restricting anti-war speech in the US was passed only 9 years after the first amendment was written. Chuds think they believe in freedom of speech, but head on over to a chud forum, post something they don't like, and watch how quickly you get banned.
In the US you are allowed to say whatever you want, provided it has no effect
you should not have 'freedom of speech' to say anything, actually :yes-comm:
:1984: No more speaking. Society has moved beyond the need for speaking.
Glenn Greenwald and the AC:LIB: U have both defended literal neo-nazis on the grounds of free speech, to which I ask: What is one reason why society should allow nazis to spread nazi propaganda?
Usually the response is "but who will decide what is and isn't nazi propaganda?" to which I would answer: me. I get to decide.
Seriously though, this question arises from the contradiction of anglos knowing that their government is the best of all possible governments combined with the objective reality that their governments are dogshit. The result is they believe a government acting in the interests of its people is simply an impossibility.
When the United States prosecutes people on the basis of their speech or their beliefs, it doesn't say that it's prosecuting them on the basis of their speech for beliefs. Checkmate 😏
I am once again regretfully saying that we have libs :amogus: .
:chompsky: Free speech and also freedom to kill people for wearing glasses. :my-hero:
freedom to be a sheepdogging MIT professor forever while america crushes entire populations at home and abroad
Always cracks me up that the one foreign "socialist" project he supported was the fuckin Khmer Rouge. I don't thing he's literally a fed, but that one incident almost makes me consider it seriously lol.
They literally can't keep the mask on for more than a half day. Sad!
Just to prove that freedom of speech is good, I regularly cause mass panics at large gatherings. I have watched mothers abandon their children trying to escape a building because they think there's a terrorist inside and it's like, yeah. Fuck terrorists, never forget. God bless America.
I can’t say only Marxism because there are anarchists on this site and I don’t want to be secretarian. I’m already banned from commenting in c/anarchism lol
Imagine "anarchists" defending the "free speech" of reactionaries.
:cringe:
saying shit like this will only come back to bite you in the ass. you're not gonna be the one running the secret police lmao
caping for freedom of speech when it never applies to leftists anyways
The secret police do not care about the law. They will kill you regardless, because you are a leftist. Defending :freeze-peach: only defends the rights of fascists, who the secret police agree with.
Fred Hampton should have merely explained he was doing freedom of speech when the FBI gunned him down.
Same with MLK, honestly. Just gotta inform the FBI you are merely speaking. They will stand down.
It's a good ideal, and saying you're against freedom of speech because it's "liberal" is pure dork shit
I'm not against freedom of speech just like I'm not against Santa Claus or the Easter Bunny.
I’m realistic as I can be about censorship in a socialist project. Especially the beginning stages. And, as a member of a ML vanguard party, you never know what will happen. I might not even live through the revolution.
