What does Personality: Connctinns even mean? Who you know isn't a personality, even to a sociopath, right?
It is all that rich people think about ime. The most important thing is who you know, there is a reason that CEOs can keep failing upwards.
They don't like each other as such, they just know each other and want to use that for mutual gain.
Ah yes "Against future" and "Traditional" definitely mean different things.
I can see them being different. As in, against future is sticking in this exact moment, whereas traditional is trying to return to an earlier period. However, they are both against our goals of reaching the future, so they look the same.
When life sucks, you lower your horizons. You don't think about next year, you don't think about tomorrow. You live in the now, because that's the only time that matters. George Orwell discussed this at length in his book on poverty. He convinced me, it makes sense to live like that when you've got nothing. It's a rational response.
"You have nothing to lose but your chains"
Also the future only comes from in the moment thinking. Well, with a healthy dose of historical context.
I dunno my family structure has a definite matriarchal tendency and it never did me any harm
Families are better when women are in charge.
Everything is better when women are in charge.
love to wave my flag that isn't red but says "red flag" on it in support of my colorblind comrades
In an economic system that breaks all social connections, it is the leaders of it who are supposedly the most connected to everyone. What a joke.
This is literally just eugenics. Charles Darwin and Madison Grant were making these claims.
ooh oh ho ho, I've dealt with this kind of slime many times before.
How's it racist? Clearly classist, but race?
This is an extremely abbreviated version of a chart I've seen before. The full version is here, and it is much better. It comes from a book called A Framework for Understanding Poverty by Ruby K. Payne, Ph.D. There are Ruby Payne workshops at schools. She is not some raging neo-nazi scum, she's quite progressive. She helps educators - the educated who are totally unfamiliar with poverty - to understand how poverty affects people. They need to form practical yet compassionate strategies for addressing its impact on people's lives. Poverty is not just a condition of not having enough money. It is a realm of particular rules, emotions, and knowledge that override all other ways of building relationships and making a life.
We know the wealthy are not like us. It is not hard to read the list of rules provided and nod at how superficial and cruel the wealthy can be. Likewise the working class comes off as pretty solid people making the best of a bad situation - one deliberately put on them by the wealthy.
I believe that this instinct to perpetuate useless work is, at bottom, simply fear of the mob. The mob (the thought runs) are such low animals that they would be dangerous if they had leisure; it is safer to keep them too busy to think. A rich man who happens to be intellectually honest, if he is questioned about the improvement of working conditions, usually says something like this:
‘We know that poverty is unpleasant; in fact, since it is so remote, we rather enjoy harrowing ourselves with the thought of its unpleasantness. But don't expect us to do anything about it. We are sorry for you lower classes, just as we are sorry for a cat with the mange, but we will fight like devils against any improvement of your condition. We feel that you are much safer as you are. The present state of affairs suits us, and we are not going to take the risk of setting you free, even by an extra hour a day. So, dear brothers, since evidently you must sweat to pay for our trips to Italy, sweat and be damned to you.’
Fear of the mob is a superstitious fear. It is based on the idea that there is some mysterious, fundamental difference between rich and poor, as though they were two different races, like Negroes and white men. But in reality there is no such difference. The mass of the rich and the poor are differentiated by their incomes and nothing else, and the average millionaire is only the average dishwasher dressed in a new suit. Change places, and handy dandy, which is the justice, which is the thief? Everyone who has mixed on equal terms with the poor knows this quite well. But the trouble is that intelligent, cultivated people, the very people who might be expected to have liberal opinions, never do mix with the poor. For what do the majority of educated people know about poverty? In my copy of Villon's poems the editor has actually thought it necessary to explain the line ‘Ne pain ne voyent qu'aux fenestres’ by a footnote; so remote is even hunger from the educated man's experience.
From this ignorance a superstitious fear of the mob results quite naturally. The educated man pictures a horde of submen, wanting only a day's liberty to loot his house, burn his books, and set him to work minding a machine or sweeping out a lavatory. ‘Anything,’ he thinks, 'any injustice, sooner than let that mob loose.’ He does not see that since there is no difference between the mass of rich and poor, there is no question of setting the mob loose. The mob is in fact loose now, and — in the shape of rich men — is using its power to set up enormous treadmills of boredom, such as ‘smart’ hotels.
To sum up. A plongeur is a slave, and a wasted slave, doing stupid and largely unnecessary work. He is kept at work, ultimately, because of a vague feeling that he would be dangerous if he had leisure. And educated people, who should be on his side, acquiesce in the process, because they know nothing about him and consequently are afraid of him. I say this of the plongeur because it is his case I have been considering; it would apply equally to numberless other types of worker. These are only my own ideas about the basic facts of a plongeur's life, made without reference to immediate economic questions, and no doubt largely platitudes. I present them as a sample of the thoughts that are put into one's head by working in an hotel.
-- George Orwell, Down and out in Paris and London
"She offers simple and simplistic solutions to complex problems," University of Minnesota professors Mistilina Sato and Timothy Lensmire wrote in 2009. "She allows white educators to think of themselves as normal and even saviors of poor pathological children and their parents."
In the face of societal inequalities, they wrote, "Payne comforts us with her soothing repetitions of centuries-old stereotypes of the poor. We can then get on with being white and privileged and free from responsibility for the well-being of our neighbors and fellow citizens."
It's nothing Payne hasn't heard and rebutted many times
"They criticize the book because they say, 'You don't say anything in the book about racism, sexism or the larger economic structures,' " she told her Orlando audience.
"And I don't. It's not that I don't think they're there. But when I wrote the book, I wrote the book for teachers. Do you follow me? I wasn't writing it to do a treatise on poverty."
After the session, she said this about stereotypes: "Everybody's brain sorts in patterns, anyway. So, you can have informed or uninformed patterns. People stereotype. It is a natural response to the environment."
She also downplayed assertions that, through her corporations and book sales, poverty has made her rich. These days, she said, it's easy to access her work online for free.
https://www.tampabay.com/news/education/k12/education-guru-ruby-payne-is-she-wrong-about-kids-in-poverty-or/2237083/
A progressive in the truest sense of the word.
How in the fuck your dogshit take here got upvotes is beyond me. This shit is the exact opposite of a liberatory pedagogy.
:downbear:
Is she progressive? This whole thing is based on generalities and stereotypes.
she might be a lib or something, idk, but what I'm reading here is fucking garbage.
It is prolifierating the class system in a pretty fucking insidious way, depending on how you read it. If you're coming from a poor it shows the way your boss thinks and what you're doing wrong, if you're coming from a bourgeois it reads how much better you are than the poors.
That whole orwell quote is complete garbage ( :surprised-pika: ) because it is coming from the idea that the upper classes fear the lower. The reality is they simply wish to exploit them.
What's your ideology bruh. The fuck are you even talking about?
That whole orwell quote is complete garbage because it is coming from the idea that the upper classes fear the lower.
Sure they do. Why do you think they're so fervently anti-worker? Because workers united will recognize them as the parasites they are and destroy them.
They're fervently anti-worker because they wish to make money off of us. They would not be anti-worker if they feared us lmao.
Like if they were aware that this may get their head removed in the short term it would not be a consideration. No fear at all, no respect either as they tend to go together
Progressive == liberal
The original progressives were white chauvinist eugenicists. They were also all liberals.
Much like american libs would like you to believe it means something different now (it doesn't), self-identified progressives would say the same thing. It doesn't.
Aware of her continued influence, community leaders in Hillsborough invited Payne to a forum in 2014. Baptiste, the education chair of the Tampa NAACP, shared a series of polite emails the two exchanged.
But Payne never came. She said the NAACP would not pay her expenses and harbored "almost a vendetta" against her.
The Rev. Russell Meyer, who works with area civil rights groups, said he was not surprised the teachers in Orlando liked Payne's message. "They don't have to change anything that they think or believe or do," he said.
Yeah she sounds like a progressive. https://www.tampabay.com/news/education/k12/education-guru-ruby-payne-is-she-wrong-about-kids-in-poverty-or/2237083/
What exactly do you find racist about this? Seems like class attitudes that transcend race imo
The comment about poor families being matriarchal plays into the absent father stereotype.
Fair enough, and point taken (wouldn't sexist be the appropriate refrain?) but true in my case. Grew up in poverty with a single mother most of my life as did my wife and most of my aquantensces. My mom was completely bipolar and incarcerated from when I was 14 to 32. Same is true or partly true for most everyone I know, family and friends (so much for social mobility, although I guess we may have one set of upper middleclass friends). So, I guess you could say we were raised by our matriarchs. Even the couples with kids I know, most of their fathers work 12 hour swing shifts rotating from days to nights and are absent even if they hold the marriage together. They have no other way to support their family and none of the people I'm referring to have a college degrees (including myself). They would absolutely take a better option if it was accessible. Of course some of our matriarchs who raised us live this life too. My wife's mother, an immigrant who worked 20 plus years in a meatpacking plant who recently retired after catching covid in 2020 and too afraid to file for SS despite being married to a US national and having US citizens as children (sweetest woman in the world). Her father also like my father and most of the working poor was absent. Her's, a trucker with alcoholism whom her mom left early in her life. Not to go off, but I don't see the lie or the lie holds truth in my lived experience.
This is clearly a description of class structure and what the different classes find valuable.
Honestly the lower class comes off sounding like kindly people I'd want to hang out with, while the wealthy are exclusionary pricks. Which they are.
