• Yun [he/him]
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    3 years ago

    Haz is currently explaining this on stream in case anyone was interested in actually understanding his words here: https://www.twitch.tv/infraredshow. The meaning of words can change over time and depending on context. It's really not that hard to interpret the guy in good faith, but I suppose most Western online leftists would rather just dunk on people to feel good.

      • Yun [he/him]
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        3 years ago

        I believe the basic idea here is that the "imperialism" of Rome is fundamentally different from modern "imperialism".

        1. The “imperialism of ancient Rome,” which carried on a policy of seizure and conquest, by force of arms subduing to its hegemony a great many countries in Europe, Asia and Africa, must not be confused with modern imperialism, just as, for instance, usury capital which existed before capitalism must not be confused with usury bank capital in the epoch of imperialism. The difference between the imperialism of ancient Rome and modem imperial­ism consists in the difference of production bases. Then it was small peasant and artisan production and commercial capital; now it is enormous machine production and monopoly capital. This example, among others, shows how incorrect it is to understand by the term “modem imperialism” only a “policy,” and not a whole system of capitalist economy. The former point of view makes it impossible to understand the distinction between the imperialism of ancient Rome and modem imperialism.
        • Imperialism: The Highest Stage of Capitalism, p. 125
    • SuperNovaCouchGuy [any]
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      3 years ago

      Haz is currently explaining this on stream in case anyone was interested in actually understanding his words here: https://www.twitch.tv/infraredshow

      Dude you do realize that this is free advertising for the narcissistic owner of a small media business. Why do you feel the need to spread his views?

      • Yun [he/him]
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        3 years ago
        1. I think Infrared has potential to make ML mainstream
        2. The original post is free advertising for another narcissistic owner of a small media business and is basically low effort slander which I want to push back against seeing as nobody else here was doing it.
        • SuperNovaCouchGuy [any]
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          3 years ago

          I think Infrared has potential to make ML mainstream

          Why? Define the "mainstream".

          The original post is free advertising for another narcissistic owner of a small media business...

          By your logic sharing youtube videos on here for the purpose of generating lulz is the same as explicitly advertising for small business owners by telling people to watch their trashy twitch streams. Noted.

          ...and is basically low effort slander which I want to push back against seeing as nobody else here was doing it.

          Criticism and slander are two different things. Assuming it is slander, why do you even care? Why is the honor of Hazzy Weinstein so important to you?

          • Yun [he/him]
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            3 years ago

            Why? Define the “mainstream”.

            I think Haz is entertaining and can appeal to more conservative and/or right-wing leaning people who otherwise would never touch anything to do with communism. I guess by mainstream, I mean big enough to cause a significant impact IRL (e.g. influencing a large number of people to join parties/orgs)

            Assuming it is slander, why do you even care?

            Like I said, I think their project has potential. Also, I wanted to encourage folks here to consume media critically and promote a mentality of interpreting what other leftists say in good faith.

            • SuperNovaCouchGuy [any]
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              3 years ago

              I think Haz is entertaining and can appeal to more conservative and/or right-wing leaning people who otherwise would never touch anything to do with communism.

              I think their project has potential.

              Yes indeed this is the Infrashite collective's PR spiel. Much like how Microsoft helps make the world more sustainable and aid in human progress by delivering cutting edge technological solutions.

              In reality, hazzy weinstein is a sad, self-hating fuck who leeches off the douchebag scene on Twitch for the success of the Infrared brand and to gain fame/notoriety. He always gets owned when debating people to the right of him who aren't neocons because they share the same political beliefs on a fundamental level. So, they just have to point out how Haz is an unemployed, depressed, failson with no career and family at 25 years of age and its a W for them because he can't say anything back since both sides use the same moral/political system.

              He appeals to right-leaning people because this is the largest demographic on Twitch and because he has a personal hatred his market competitors (Breadtube, Vaush, etc.) His entertainment value comes from his unhinged rants and unfounded self confidence. I personally enjoy watching clips of him use manipulative debate bro tactics to yell at liberals. But at the end of the day, everyone is laughing at him, not with him.

              Furthermore, he has admitted to being a conservative multiple times, and shits out right wing talking points such as "muh antifa bad" and "muh progressivism bad". Appealing to conservatives is also a shitty idea because social conservatism is a dying ideology that only terminally online rich teenagers and boomers give any credibility to. The majority of young people are either "apolitical" or "progressive". There is no way that Twitch personalities will ever be able to spur any form of IRL impact (other than making :le-pol-face: unhinged enough to shoot up another school) because serious IRL stuff would necessitate people touching grass for good and stop watching them, thus stopping the flow of revenue. You have to remember that hazzy weinstein is running an entertainment business, not a real movement.

              Also, I wanted to encourage folks here to consume media critically and promote a mentality of interpreting what other leftists say in good faith.

              hazzy weinstein is not a leftist, and does not act in good faith (upon his own admission, multiple times), so why should we give him the time of day beyond this post or even respect him as a human being? Everyone here for the most part actually does consume media critically, and part of that is recognizing the fact that youtubers and twitch streamers are, at the end of the day, small business owners, and should not be taken seriously beyond a certain point.