https://thenextrecession.wordpress.com/2021/09/30/iippe-2021-imperialism-china-and-finance/

from yesterdays thread, we got this paper floating which argues that there isnt an argument for imperialism. we'll take it from there. also I'd love to see more material supporting this stance!

to me, the author of the linked paper doesnt really answer the question.

the text says middle rank economies arent or cant be subimperialist? unclear how they support this claim.

  • they cite a study showing china as in between imperialist and imperialized

  • their own UE index shows a massive decrease of outflow in china in the last 20 years compared to earlier. this dosnt conflict with the argument that china might be imperialist, because its the recent shift to capital export that we look at here.

author then they later say “imperialist economies and the rest is not narrowing – on the contrary. And that includes China, which will not join the imperialist club.” - how does make sense with the above then?

the linked ppt seems to compute imperialism in total trade. noone is arguing china is imperialist against the west, but this calculation masks the argument of a potential “subimperialism”, in China’s global south trade, because this is a small share of China’s total trade. so we’re not left with any conclusion about “sub-imperialism” or whatever you will call these countries that have net outflows to the old west, but exploit the global south in their own right. this could include overseas China economy, turkey?, the gulf, malaysia. etc.

  • cokedupchavez [none/use name]
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    3 years ago

    Taking the opportunity to recirculate scholarship of imperialism from an earlier thread:

    on capitalist imperialism in globalization: there's the cheng enfu and lu baolin essay, and I've have noted intan suwandi, the patnaiks, zak cope and john smith. There is also Imperialism and the Development Myth: How Rich Countries Dominate in the Twenty-First Century by Sam King

    half of the squad actually met up in this avenger assembly-lookin forum, which is awesome: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ku92kdTRjEI

    from a daily, the good comrade Comi suggested to start with

    Divided world divided class? - Samir Amin in that sphere also

    to which i replied

    I was gonna schematize amin with harvey and wallerstein as a prior generation scholars dealing with a prepubescent globalization but maybe thats too rigid. But we’re kinda doing an unhelpful conflation between world systems theory, dependency theory and value chain analysis here?