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  • Redbolshevik2 [he/him]
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    3 years ago

    Right no former cops have ever faced any danger from their former colleagues.

    Every American soldier is executed on the spot if they say they want to stop killing children.

    • 420blazeit69 [he/him]
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      3 years ago

      Do you think this is a productive way to have a conversation with other leftists?

      • Redbolshevik2 [he/him]
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        3 years ago

        I don't think any of you would be amenable to any examination of your hypocrisy even in the most hand-holding of tone.

        • 420blazeit69 [he/him]
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          3 years ago

          Assuming everyone else is wrong and being an asshole to them is wrecker shit.

          • Redbolshevik2 [he/him]
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            3 years ago

            There's no assumption going on here. If you maintain that All Cops Are Bastards and There May Have Been Mitigating Circumstances For Some Of The Troops, it's because you're able to draw an insanely arbitrary line on what's acceptable that just happens to mean that killing foreign subhumans doesn't matter as much as killing human Americans. Literally any reasoning you concoct will be a post-hoc justification so you don't have to examine your biases.

            • 420blazeit69 [he/him]
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              3 years ago

              It's not an arbitrary line at all. I went into detail on the differences, but you've ignored all of that to do wrecker shit instead.

              • Redbolshevik2 [he/him]
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                3 years ago

                Troops who quit aren't imprisoned in foreign countries as a rule.

                There is arguably more copaganda than there is military propaganda. A good half of the ten most popular shows on TV right now are about cops.

                The idea that everyone goes into the fucking military not knowing that the point is to murder people while every cop is a hardened money-whore familiar with the realities of policing is some bullshit you made up to justify your national chauvinism.

                In fact, I'd argue that far more people enter the police as starry-eyed idealists because it's possible for a human being with a brain to think that policing could be good. Everyone knows that the point of a military is to kill people. Everyone.

                The best possible case for someone going into the police is that they think they can do good in their community. The best possible case for someone going into the military is that they think killing people for four years is worth a free college education.

                • 420blazeit69 [he/him]
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                  3 years ago

                  If you're in Iraq and decide to quit the military, the first place you're going is some sort of detention facility in Iraq. It's not even comparable to cops, who can just stop showing up to work one day.

                  There's lots of copaganda, sure, but Americans are much closer to the reality of American policing than they are to the reality of American imperialism.

                  The idea that everyone goes into the fucking military not knowing that the point is to murder people while every cop is a hardened money-whore

                  Did I say that? You're not on reddit anymore.

                  And while everyone knows the military kills people, killing is sometimes justified. I'm sure you have no problem killing Nazis, right? One big aim of military propaganda is to portray whoever we're fighting as deserving of the same sort of violence.

                  • Redbolshevik2 [he/him]
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                    3 years ago

                    If you’re in Iraq and decide to quit the military, the first place you’re going is some sort of detention facility in Iraq.

                    Quitting the military is an involved process that can take a dozen different routes. Most people aren't imprisoned.

                    There’s lots of copaganda, sure, but Americans are much closer to the reality of American policing than they are to the reality of American imperialism.

                    Americans didn't figure out that the police are bad until last year and the jury is still out.

                    And while everyone knows the military kills people, killing is sometimes justified. I’m sure you have no problem killing Nazis, right? One big aim of military propaganda is to portray whoever we’re fighting as deserving of the same sort of violence.

                    Sounds like the bevy of propaganda about how cops are valiant community-serving guys who sometimes have to make hard decisions in the aforementioned every popular show.