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  • 420blazeit69 [he/him]
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    3 years ago

    You can't claim conscientious objector status after you volunteer for military service. You're just making stuff up.

    As for American familiarity with policing, consider the reaction you'd get for "fuck the troops" vs. "fuck the police." One is far beyond the pale outside of small, politically irrelevant leftist groups because it's met with such universal opposition. The other is a mainstream rap song people still listen to 30 years later.

    • Redbolshevik2 [he/him]
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      3 years ago

      You can file for conscientious objector status after enlisting, look it up.

      And yes, Americans are more aware of policing than the military, but that is extremely localized and to any extent that it's broad, it's recent. Any time prior to maybe five years ago if you said "fuck the police" to a white person they would look like you'd just fucked their mother in front of them.

      • 420blazeit69 [he/him]
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        3 years ago

        No, that's incorrect, and you'd still get a dishonorable discharge in any event. And no one gets conscientious objector status if they wake up one day and don't want to fight -- you basically have to be a lifelong committed pacifist to even have a shot at it.

        Any time prior to maybe five years ago if you said “fuck the police” to a white person they would look like you’d just fucked their mother in front of them.

        This is also incorrect. There are sizeable segments of both the left and the right who've long been hostile to police, and direct (but more careful) criticism of the police has a long history at least among Democrats.

          • 420blazeit69 [he/him]
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            3 years ago

            I didn't look it up because I know you're wrong, and you're the one making the assertion anyway. I'm not your research assistant.

            By sizeable segments you mean 0.5% of each (white) population

            You're totally disconnected from reality. Plenty of people knew there were serious issues with the cops long before five years ago.

            You're back to just making shit up -- I'm done here.