No, it's only the former. "States are good, sometimes" is the Marxist take. Bakunin is arguing here that it is impossible to create a worker's state, not that it's unlikely.
And NJR is using that as a bad faith critique to say that they actually did mean a literal dictatorship, can't mean anything else, and is just left punching and red scaring at, frankly, like at a liberal's level. That you can't even include Marx in your analysis because he's scary and violent and power hungry.
As if smashing the fucking state, the position of an actual anarchist, isn't going to require a violent, revolutionary dictatorship. Conveniently, he leaves that part out.
He's jumping back and forth between DemSoc ideology and methods and anarchist critique, which are fundamentally incompatible.
No, it's only the former. "States are good, sometimes" is the Marxist take. Bakunin is arguing here that it is impossible to create a worker's state, not that it's unlikely.
And NJR is using that as a bad faith critique to say that they actually did mean a literal dictatorship, can't mean anything else, and is just left punching and red scaring at, frankly, like at a liberal's level. That you can't even include Marx in your analysis because he's scary and violent and power hungry.
As if smashing the fucking state, the position of an actual anarchist, isn't going to require a violent, revolutionary dictatorship. Conveniently, he leaves that part out.
He's jumping back and forth between DemSoc ideology and methods and anarchist critique, which are fundamentally incompatible.