lets all please line up nicely and yell at each other now :)

  • Gorn [they/them,he/him]
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    4 years ago

    It’s an entire field of psychology, so I recommend starting with a birds-eye view: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Political_psychology

    But also, a really important place to start if we’re ever going to talk about ‘reeducation’ or ‘convincing libs’ is to understand the basic principles of chud psychology: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Right-wing_authoritarianism

    A lot of it makes sense on an intuitive level, because we all know chuds, but it’s important to be science based when we’re talking about this stuff

    A lot of political belief is personality, which is psychology

    • frompeaches [she/her,they/them]
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      I've read these a while back. What I meant was like, what are your replicable go to, high quality experiments or like bodies of research. The aforementioned replication* crisis hit scores of political psychology studies in implicit bias and stuff.

      Edit: For context, in the early 2010s, psychology was hit with a replication crisis – popular papers findings could not be reproduced, especially in social psychology (ie, personality and behavioural stuff).

      A report by the Open Science Collaboration in August 2015 that was coordinated by Brian Nosek estimated the reproducibility of 100 studies in psychological science from three high-ranking psychology journals. Overall, 36% of the replications yielded significant findings (p value below 0.05) compared to 97% of the original studies that had significant effects. The mean effect size in the replications was approximately half the magnitude of the effects reported in the original studies.

      tl;dr 61% of the research in top journals could not be reproduced, of the ones that did, half of those were not as strong effects as thought. Most of psychology is in serious crisis. People's lives work is turning out non replicable.

      It's a mix of bad methodology, lazy work, genuine mistakes and straight up fraud. A system that rewards only original research and does not fund replication has let the problem fester.

      • Gorn [they/them,he/him]
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        Oh, I don’t have any answers for the replicability crisis. I honestly try to stick to core findings that have held up over the decades like ‘people largely are who they were when they were young’. Even outside of political psychology, political analyses show that people don’t change much in their voting patterns over the course of their life. That’s a pretty solid, old, replicated finding that I frankly don’t expect will change much with the internet. I don’t really believe the internet is that revolutionizing, tbh. 95% of retweets come from the same old media corporations that made 95% of newspapers before the internet, etc.

        So that, and personality psychology, which is really broad and seems to be holding up. At least, the newer schools of personality psych like the Big Five model, which seems pretty solid tbh. And then things like Right-wing authoritarianism, social dominance orientation, which are in line with Big Five stuff today, and to a lesser exent system justification theory. Admittedly, I don’t know much about leftists/what makes a leftist, besides some of the basic personality tendencies. I should learn more about the psychology of becoming leftist later in life, really, that’s like the whole point here. Too busy trying to wrap my head around those multigenerational chud cults that currently dominate america

        I’ve read a little about, like, ex white nationalists who go about helping other white nationalists ‘come over’, but never really studied their techniques.

        Also, does CBT count? Haha I like to consider circumstances known to help people change their minds when I’m trying to do that but... it’s just really hard to change ppls minds