In Western stuff it tends to be portrayed as weird and fucked up shit done by sick and or evil people (like being queer or non-genderconforming used to be until faily recently), in Japanese stuff it's often treated in a more neutral (and sometimes romantic) way
Game of thrones: :side-eye-1: :side-eye-2:
Though you could reasonably argue that GoT is jack off material lol
In Western stuff it tends to be portrayed as weird and fucked up shit done by sick and or evil people (like being queer or non-genderconforming used to be until faily recently), in Japanese stuff it's often treated in a more neutral (and sometimes romantic) way
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