• Nakoichi [they/them]
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      3 years ago

      It started with this guy complaining that they weren't also talking about Netflix producing imperialist propaganda. Just classic stupidpol shit.

      It devolved into them trying to call service workers part of the labor aristocracy.

      • aaaaaaadjsf [he/him, comrade/them]
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        3 years ago

        Oh my word lol. By this guy's logic maids and various servers that work for minimum wage in South Africa are now labour aristocracy. By trying to talk about the global south, he's actively exculded us

        Also 80% of workers produce no surplus value? Wtf is this person on?

        • Nakoichi [they/them]
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          3 years ago

          Migrant workers in the US too, or the people I work with who aren't payed enough to live in the same city as their workplace unless they take on multiple labor intensive and degrading jobs.

          They're probably some edgy teenager who only just learned about the exploitation of the global south and has extrapolated that out to mean that some guy that makes $14 a day is somehow privileged and a beneficiary of imperialism even though he sleeps on concrete and eats half his meals out of a dumpster.

          • aaaaaaadjsf [he/him, comrade/them]
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            3 years ago

            I mean this person goes on to say 80% of workers produce no surplus value so I don't know what they're thinking really.

            This is what happens when you try to be third worldist but haven't actually read Mao

            • Nakoichi [they/them]
              hexagon
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              3 years ago

              Honestly I had to post this here because this was such a wild take I had to make sure I wasn't the crazy one here.

              • aaaaaaadjsf [he/him, comrade/them]
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                3 years ago

                Yeah it's wild. Also you can be a beneficiary of imperialism and still produce surplus value and be treated like shit by your employer. In the same way a white person can be broke as hell but still experience white privilege at times. It's not a zero sum game. Stuff intersects with each other all the time

            • RNAi [he/him]
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              3 years ago

              Maybe they skimmed the book "Bullshit Jobs"

              • aaaaaaadjsf [he/him, comrade/them]
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                3 years ago

                Their whole argument is apparently that Marx said service workers produce no surplus value.

                Just a :galaxy-brain: take

                • NaturalsNotInIt [any]
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                  3 years ago

                  "Service worker" is almost meaningless for class analysis because an investment banker and a cashier at McDonald's are both "service workers".

                  • aaaaaaadjsf [he/him, comrade/them]
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                    3 years ago

                    It's a massive misunderstanding of Marx's theory of unproductive vs productive labour as far as I can tell. I'm at work and don't really have time to debunk the fed brainworms at the moment