Like, if tomorrow there was magically communism in all fucking USA+Europe+Australia, how would they de-imperialize their economies?

More importantly, would they? Is the desire for treats and living off other countries stronger than socialism?

Is Europe at least self-food-sufficient?

  • 01100011101001111100 [she/her]
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    3 years ago

    The desire for treats is a plug in the hole that people feel from alienation and as a prophylaxis against hearing the cries of the oppressed and the very earth itself. Treats is just a mask for oblivion. It's not a coincidence that mass consumer culture and modern marketing starts in the 70s with the birth of neoliberalism and the crackdown on labour (capitalists won the last phase of the class war).

    In a socialist economy we satisfy needs and not every possible want - acknowledging that "a need is a need, whether it's of the stomach or the fancy." Not every single person will get a 50 feet luxury yacht. The treat train will stop and imperial core workers will have to get used to having access to much less disposable consumer goods.

    In exchange they will have true power over their workplaces, their politics, their own lives. They will be able to contribute meaningfully to the world revolution and aid comrades from all corners of the globe. They will be able to help solve climate change, meaningfully. They will be empowered, they will be unalienated, they will be liberated and so treats will no longer be necessary to mask over their own pain.

      • 01100011101001111100 [she/her]
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        3 years ago

        Yeah but the advertising of the 20s through 50s was like, "buy our cigarettes!" or "use borax!" The advertising where it's a personal identity didnt hit overdrive until the 70s and brands started to focus on social liscense or whatever the fuck. Listen to some of those old ads, it's kinda funny to see the difference.

    • RNAi [he/him]
      hexagon
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      3 years ago

      imperial core workers will have to get used to having access to much less disposable consumer goods

      That's the useless shitstiring hypotetical question I'm asking: "Would they tho?"

      • 01100011101001111100 [she/her]
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        3 years ago

        They wont have a choice either way, that shit is ending. Either on our terms as workers or because the planet is cooked.

        I think the lotus-eater treat apathy can be broken out of but you need to give people a party or a movement or something to work towards. Otherwise, yeah, they have no rational reason to choose to give stuff up.