Everything here is just :agony-shivering: :chefs-kiss:

Langley :handshake: 12 yo kids

    • Brak [they/them, e/em/eir]
      ·
      edit-2
      3 years ago

      There would have been no chance for Socialism from that point on.

      I think you're swinging too far in the other direction, champ. China doesn't need Russia, even though they have good ties.

      Russia is very close to fash already, it's just national vs international bourgeoisie running the dog and pony show.

      I agree that Russia is underestimated and that ol' Vlad is better than any neolib puppet NATO would install, that's for sure.

        • Brak [they/them, e/em/eir]
          ·
          3 years ago

          Oh they're valuable trading partners, not arguing about that. China is making good inroads with the rest of the global south however and also already does a lot of business wirh the imperial core (thank you based Deng).

    • SoyViking [he/him]
      ·
      3 years ago

      I'm afraid Europe will go fascist no matter what. Worsened material conditions due to climate change will make Europe a continent of angry middle class chuds who feel they have been cheated out of the privilege and the treats they feel entitled to. Meanwhile climate change will also create increasing number of refugees, leading to even more murderous and sadistic deportation and border security regimes. The chances of Europe not going fascist and genociding the Muslims are small.

    • AlexandairBabeuf [they/them]
      ·
      3 years ago

      if Russia falls, Fascism wins in Europe

      i would like you explain this. a far-right nationalist country being more neolib makes neolib countries more fascist?

      Europe fucking sucks no argument but i see no causal link between these events

        • AlexandairBabeuf [they/them]
          ·
          3 years ago

          None of this explains how Russia competing with the West-neolibs is preventing the rise of fascism. Russia is neolib too, there's a fascist movement there too.

          In terms of having a less rabid neighbor on China's frontier you're correct and i'll agree that's better than some alternatives. but it ain't providing an alternative to neoliberalism or fascism.

          an alternative is what is needed to combat fascism and China, Belarus, even indigenous euro socialists are doing more for that than Russia

            • AlexandairBabeuf [they/them]
              ·
              3 years ago

              talking completely agreeable points about China then transposing them to Russia ain't gonna convince me.

              China is a fucking dictatorship of the proletariat im not gonna accept Russia being given the same leeway on the grounds it also opposes US hegemony.

              at its core your argument is 'something's gotta give' and you hope Russia is going to take a not fascist path at some future juncture.

              where is the evidence for Russia supporting socialism? what has the Putin government done to advance socialism? what is your belief of Putin preventing fascism based on?

              wanting a bigger slice of the pie is NOT building the productive forces for socialism. it does not fight fascism.

    • DivineChaos100 [none/use name]
      ·
      3 years ago

      Idk if you've read news from Europe nowadays but the continent is turning fash on its own terms anf Putin is very happy about this

        • DivineChaos100 [none/use name]
          ·
          3 years ago

          Someone once told me this and I now think it’s true: “Libs see the world through personalities, Marxists see the world as history.” History is shaped by material forces, not individual leaders.

          That's true. Polish and Ukrainian far right is obviously anti-russian and it was a mistake on my part that i didn't include them, since it is an obviously trumped up effort to get more cannon fodder in the army in case of a conflict which is more likely to be started from the west than Russia. But if you look further, Hungarian fash are very much pro russian (so much that they're sending mercenaries to Donbass to fight for Russia), Italian and French and if i remember correctly, Greek far-right also has ties to russian oligarchs. I didn't mean he's happy about it as "he must be a fash", more like as it's a favorable development for him.