John Oliver discusses Taiwan’s history of being governed by other countries, its fraught present-day relationship with China, and what its citizens would lik...
Hasn’t there actually been an increase in jet flyovers of claimed Taiwanese territory? Obviously the PRC has always maintained their claim on Taiwan, but it was my impression that the flyovers have actually increased.
See how easy it is to be sweapt by the easiest of imperialist tricks and propaganda . What these news use as "Tawianese airspace" is Taiwan's ADIZ(air defence identification zone") which in Taiwan's case is really massive, covering most of the South China and most of Fujian Province in China. . So its like if Cuba included Florida on its "airspace" and then international news posted constantly on how the US does flyovers in Cuban airspace
Also, I don’t think Oliver is a State Department apparatus other than in the typical Manufacturing Consent sense which is to say that the tail that is the State Department wags the dog that is most US media. Not directly, but through narrative framing that the media unquestioningly adopts.
Well yeah thats how that shit opperates most of the time. The machinery has been oiled and meticulously built for a century so the CIA etc dont need to actualy infiltrate or have people on payroll to expertly control the narrative and the media
Obviously, the system is such that people with convenient viewpoints get promoted. I'm just saying that we shouldn't pretend the CIA don't get directly involved as well, because they factually do.
I personally don't know. It's worth noting, thought, that China might just be flying more in general recently. The ADIZ covers more of the mainland than of Taiwan.
That might be where some of the flights are. But if he's counting ADIZ entries in general rather than just flights along that particular path, it could be anywhere in the zone shown in the map @please_dont linked.
See how easy it is to be sweapt by the easiest of imperialist tricks and propaganda . What these news use as "Tawianese airspace" is Taiwan's ADIZ(air defence identification zone") which in Taiwan's case is really massive, covering most of the South China and most of Fujian Province in China. . So its like if Cuba included Florida on its "airspace" and then international news posted constantly on how the US does flyovers in Cuban airspace
Well yeah thats how that shit opperates most of the time. The machinery has been oiled and meticulously built for a century so the CIA etc dont need to actualy infiltrate or have people on payroll to expertly control the narrative and the media
Except they actually do in many cases. A lot of big news agencies are (and have been) revolving doors for intelligence agents.
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Obviously, the system is such that people with convenient viewpoints get promoted. I'm just saying that we shouldn't pretend the CIA don't get directly involved as well, because they factually do.
Right but afaik the Taiwan ADIZ hasn't expanded recently, so isn't it at least notable that China is flying more in this area than previously?
I personally don't know. It's worth noting, thought, that China might just be flying more in general recently. The ADIZ covers more of the mainland than of Taiwan.
Didn't know that. Does make Oliver's graphic pretty disingenuous. He basically draws it as a line in the ocean.
That might be where some of the flights are. But if he's counting ADIZ entries in general rather than just flights along that particular path, it could be anywhere in the zone shown in the map @please_dont linked.