• JuneFall [none/use name]
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    3 years ago

    Yes, you are right, but still an easy formular. Alternative formulation could be socialism for the poor, consequences for the companies.

    • EthicalHumanMeat [he/him]
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      3 years ago

      We need people to actually understand what socialism is (I find that it's already plenty easy to explain as just economic democracy), and we definitely shouldn't be associating it with bad things.

      • pppp1000 [he/him]
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        3 years ago

        This. I hate it when I see people say "it's ok to muddle the meaning of socialism if it is associated with something positive." Literally had someone say that socialism being associated with a non problematic country like Switzerland is a good thing. In here.

      • JuneFall [none/use name]
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        3 years ago

        we definitely shouldn’t be associating it with bad things.

        Sure we should tell what socialism is - and communism for that matter, which is precisely the real movement which abolishes the present state of things. The conditions of this movement result from the premises now in existence - but we can be aware of context and that not at any time the most precise academic Marxist definition is needed, but in communicative processes often that which connects to the other or the audience.

        I also believe that action and collective action and the theory circles within those movements are what gives people words for what they experience in the workforce. There is the place in my opinion - in those different social relations - to find clarity that you don't find or strive for in most online posts or arguments. As nothing radicalizes as much as work and collective action which creates an actor in a conflict that is powerful.