Moments like these, I'm reminded Marx was European. Jokes about terminology aside, didn't Marx and Engels themselves drop the Asiatic mode of production in their later works?
Regardless, the point remains that these two examples didn't develop from capitalism, and so couldn't count on already-industrialized societies (among other issues).
This might be wrong, but I remember Trotsky at some point bringing up that Russia was in the Asiatic state of production at some point, saying it was like China where the power is more centralized in the figure of the sovereign who delegates to handpicked provincial governors instead of local power having local sovereignty like in Western Europe. Regardless, I think there is something to be said about China and Russia being alike one another and unlike the West at that point in history.
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NO! NO ANALYSIS OF MATERIAL CONDITIONS! :only-throw: ONLY IDEOLOGY.
Sounds like an alright answer to me, although you would think China and Russia would be more like the Asiatic mode of production.
Moments like these, I'm reminded Marx was European. Jokes about terminology aside, didn't Marx and Engels themselves drop the Asiatic mode of production in their later works?
Regardless, the point remains that these two examples didn't develop from capitalism, and so couldn't count on already-industrialized societies (among other issues).
This might be wrong, but I remember Trotsky at some point bringing up that Russia was in the Asiatic state of production at some point, saying it was like China where the power is more centralized in the figure of the sovereign who delegates to handpicked provincial governors instead of local power having local sovereignty like in Western Europe. Regardless, I think there is something to be said about China and Russia being alike one another and unlike the West at that point in history.
Certainly, I think there's something to that. Not coincidentally, they both had somewhat similar revolutions, and the West did not.
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