• Galli [comrade/them]
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    il y a 3 ans

    Reasonable reaction to reddit debate bros shouting read theory at anyone who disagrees with them. Only dunkable aspect is using burned instead of flashed but that might have been intentional bait for said redditors.

    • EmmaGoldman [she/her, comrade/them]M
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      il y a 3 ans

      The state of Reddit anarchists: liberals who believe everything the US state department says and just want to nationalize Walmart will somehow result in a stateless solarpunk utopia, something that deeeeefinitely is possible and makes sense.

      The state of Reddit MLs: armchairs who tell everyone to read theory instead of answering questions because they haven't actually read the theory, either. If they do cite a specific author or work, the point of that work is invariably arguing the exact opposite of what they're trying to say.

      • effervescent [they/them]
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        il y a 3 ans

        I love to cite Pedagogy of the Oppressed because I’ve seen Reddit ML’s use it to justify why anarchists are bad communists. There’s literally a whole section railing against sectarianism in the first couple pages.

      • Budwig_v_1337hoven [he/him]
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        il y a 3 ans

        C'mon The People's Republic of Walmart is definitely a worthy read - and of course it's no panacea, but it's definitely something to strive for imo. Read theory, adaptively planned economies are the future anyway; let's not leave the planning up to capital

        • EmmaGoldman [she/her, comrade/them]M
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          il y a 3 ans

          Planned economies work, but nationalizing Walmart does not a planned economy make, nor is a government-owned company operated as part of a socialist aligned state capitalist planned economy an example of a stateless anti-capitalist and anti-materialistic global commune in unity with nature.

          It's "free treats" economics, and it necessitates the continued brutal exploitation of the global south in order to function at all.

          • Budwig_v_1337hoven [he/him]
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            il y a 3 ans

            Yeah, sure. Especially when it comes to companies like amazon and other multi-national corps, nationalization seems infeasible from the get-go and inadequate even if accomplished. Socialization of these corps, liberation of that tech needs to be embedded in a wider, internationalist struggle - and is, for sure, a rather distant possibility at this point. Still, I think it's worthwhile to think and theorize about. Adaptive planning is just so much better at allocating resources than markets or the central planning of old.

            If TPRoW is too shallow a text for you, may I suggest this piece - it's specifically centered on the calculation debate, that holy grail of bourgeois ideology.

    • please_dont [he/him]
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      il y a 3 ans

      Reasonable reaction to reddit debate bros

      You already lost me multiple times through these first 6 words

      • Galli [comrade/them]
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        il y a 3 ans

        Sometimes you must suffer for art and what more pure form of suffering is there than reddit?