Yeah that is actually the thing to do though. Don't entertain their ignorant doomerism, just get them to go to something well-organized. It's actually less effort to have them go to an action with you and have lunch or dinner afterwards than to try to come up with rhetorical stratagems to work around someone that can't see a path forward.
Yea this is pretty easy in my experience to drag good friends to events though OP seems to be working with "people" in general which may just be an issue of lacking trust and credibility amongst the people they're agitating
Get them to take their very first step by attending an action or joining an org.
"how do I convince people to do praxis who think it's not worth it"
"get them to do praxis"
Just poking some fun, no hard feelings
Yeah that is actually the thing to do though. Don't entertain their ignorant doomerism, just get them to go to something well-organized. It's actually less effort to have them go to an action with you and have lunch or dinner afterwards than to try to come up with rhetorical stratagems to work around someone that can't see a path forward.
Yea this is pretty easy in my experience to drag good friends to events though OP seems to be working with "people" in general which may just be an issue of lacking trust and credibility amongst the people they're agitating
True that, though if you've got enough charisma/pull it can also work on randos. It's a good skill to practice, even.