Im not doubting your experience but I am fairly surprised at the amount of musicians who are still genre racist you run into? Is it really so prevalent?
I have a hard time fitting in with other musicians too. I actually have a similar story as you, guitar since I was ten, high school band. Now Im an adult, and its hard to join bands with other adults, theyre grown but a lot of the time they are so immature its painful.
Its a relatively small community compared to other genres. You see plenty of people who are like "maybe we shouldn't use gypsy anymore" but also enough people who don't care that the genre is still called "Gypsy Jazz" more than the other two names.
I honestly hate referring to it irl because no one knows what I'm saying when I say Manouche.
That being said I've spoken to zero Manouche players irl. I've only been to one live jazz show and it was literally the week before Covid lockdowns hit and other folks at the table next to us were joking it would be the last one for a while and they were quite right.
Im not doubting your experience but I am fairly surprised at the amount of musicians who are still genre racist you run into? Is it really so prevalent?
I've learned to be really careful generalising my own experiences. Like I've lived most of my life around nerds/hacker culture here locally, and always found it to be welcoming and fairly left in terms of politics. But after having seen so many examples of tech-bro CHUDs the past 10 years, I realised I was probably just in some weird kind of bubble.
So, I wouldn't be surprised if there were a lot of right-wing loonies among musicians that just happen to escape my radar because they're in different scenes.
Im not doubting your experience but I am fairly surprised at the amount of musicians who are still genre racist you run into? Is it really so prevalent?
I have a hard time fitting in with other musicians too. I actually have a similar story as you, guitar since I was ten, high school band. Now Im an adult, and its hard to join bands with other adults, theyre grown but a lot of the time they are so immature its painful.
Its a relatively small community compared to other genres. You see plenty of people who are like "maybe we shouldn't use gypsy anymore" but also enough people who don't care that the genre is still called "Gypsy Jazz" more than the other two names.
I honestly hate referring to it irl because no one knows what I'm saying when I say Manouche.
That being said I've spoken to zero Manouche players irl. I've only been to one live jazz show and it was literally the week before Covid lockdowns hit and other folks at the table next to us were joking it would be the last one for a while and they were quite right.
I've learned to be really careful generalising my own experiences. Like I've lived most of my life around nerds/hacker culture here locally, and always found it to be welcoming and fairly left in terms of politics. But after having seen so many examples of tech-bro CHUDs the past 10 years, I realised I was probably just in some weird kind of bubble.
So, I wouldn't be surprised if there were a lot of right-wing loonies among musicians that just happen to escape my radar because they're in different scenes.