• Orannis62 [ze/hir]
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    3 years ago

    I’m glad your family was class conscious/anti-imperialist but a large majority of Americans are not/were not.

    And? The imperial machine marches on whether or not imperial subjects choose to recognize it. Imperialists who commit atrocities can't just get a blanket pardon because they didn't know better

    • fed [none/use name]
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      3 years ago

      I’m not saying blanket pardon, I’m not even saying forgiveness, I’m simply talking about analyzing the material / societal reasons. unless you believe people are just evil and like doing evil it seems like the “normal” take leftists should have lol

        • Zodiark [he/him]
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          3 years ago

          His argument is paternalistic: Americans simply aren't capable of introspection and moral relativism of the 1960s and American exceptionalism probably inhibited such thoughts of desertion, draft avoidance, and imprisonment from the majority of the population of the US at that time.

          That's probably true, but we are certainly capable of condemning the past and condemning the current executioners of American hegemony.

          To understand is not to condone, and yet calling for understanding and nuance rhymes with calls for acceptance and reconciliation with the society that produces and necessitates this global genocidal violence.

      • Orannis62 [ze/hir]
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        3 years ago

        Nobody is arguing that we shouldn't do that.

        Analyzing the material reasons people do what they do is good. Recognizing the systemic factors that lead imperialists to project imperialism is something that we should do. But that doesn't mean treating imperialists with these uwu kid gloves, especially when they haven't deprogrammed.