• Gosplan14 [any]
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    3 years ago

    I'm Polish and went to Czechia for the first time (excluding transit) last month. Ngl, I could maybe understand like 20% of spoken language. (Written czech is way easier, but sounds silly due to many words that also exist in Polish being either extremely informal, antiquated or similar)

    Also I'm assuming you are referring to the invasion of Český Těšín in 1938, as Nazi Germany was annexing the Sudetenland? It was certainly a dick move, but is mostly a footnote in polish teaching of history. Though that isn't surprising, at it glorifies polish nationalism.

    And yeah, Polish drivers are... quality

    • Vncredleader
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      3 years ago

      A footnote for Poland perhaps, the legitimization of Nazi annexation for Czechoslovaks. Plus the brief occupation was still upsetting. Czech political orgs got banned, Roman Catholic perishes that belonged to Czech dioecies for a long long time suddenly where forced to leave them and swear to only serve Polish catholics. Pope Pius was close to Poland and let them trample all over them. Enablers all around

      The Roman Catholic parishes in the area belonged either to the Archdiocese of Breslau (Archbishop Bertram) or to the Archdiocese of Olomouc (Archbishop Leopold Prečan), respectively, both traditionally comprising cross-border diocesan territories in Czechoslovakia and Germany. When the Polish government demanded after its takeover that the parishes there be disentangled from these two archdioceses, the Holy See complied. Pope Pius XI, former nuncio to Poland, subjected the Catholic parishes in Zaolzie to an apostolic administrationunder Stanisław Adamski , Bishop of Katowice .

      I can't find a copy of the source, but a Czech historian of Polish descent's work apparently claims that with the socialists ceasing to be allowed to exist post annexation, left with Poles felt as second-class as before.

      btw Kristina have you read 1939: the alliance that never was by Michael jabara Carley? It is about the Czechoslovak scramble and the serious attempts by even the non-leftists in the gov to form a military-alliance with the USSR?

      • kristina [she/her]
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        3 years ago

        yeah i fucking hate edvard benes, though hes jerked off in czechia nonstop. i knew about most of those things its talked about a lot in hardliner czech communist circles

      • Gosplan14 [any]
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        3 years ago

        Interesting. I actually didn't know much of the situation, only that it happened and knowing Poland, was both a bad idea and handled horribly.

    • kristina [she/her]
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      3 years ago

      really? i think sticking to simple language is very easy, obviously if its difficult words or listening to people not speaking directly to you that might be hard. i also lived along the border with poland for a while... so might be easier since i knew a lot of silesians and poles growing up so we all sort of learned the easiest words to converse with there

      for me i was never properly taught how to write in czech so written language can be difficult for me actually. i should probably go on duolingo at some point and learn how but speaking czech doesnt come up for me a lot in my day to day outside of talking to grandma :sadness: i do think if all the slavic countries came together and found all the words most similar and tried to make a sort of pidgin language that everyone knew thatd be cool

      • Gosplan14 [any]
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        3 years ago

        The main issue was people talking too damn fast lol. For some reason I find slovak easier to understand, even though the sample size isn't that high for me to reliably say so.

        Also have a look at Lusatian languages. They're a fun oddity, as they're the other west slavic language barely anyone knows (the other being Kashubian)

        • kristina [she/her]
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          3 years ago

          ive met sorbians before! they were fun to listen to. a lot actually moved to czechia, they sound a lot like czech but with our german influences even more pronounced. i loved living on the border so many lanaguage shenanigans

        • kristina [she/her]
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          3 years ago

          https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vsBDoJfU_iE you might find this language video fun btw i love this guy

          • Gosplan14 [any]
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            3 years ago

            Oh yeah, I think I saw that one already. Like I posted before, I got family near the border and to me Belarusian is hard to distinguish from Russian. But I never spoke to one in person.

            • kristina [she/her]
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              3 years ago

              yeah you eventually are just in tune and understand what words are similar and can communicate that way with lived experience... a lot of these words are similar regardless of the language though some languages are trickier