• Crowtee_Robot [he/him]
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    3 years ago

    If he wasn't so afraid he'd come down here and fight. What? Jacob bruise your ego too bad last time?

    :why-angel:

    • sagarmatha [none/use name]
      hexagon
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      3 years ago

      Maybe it's merciful that he does not show that transcendency is possible, laying our eyes on the realized impossible might make us reach the state of Aporia

  • GreenTeaRedFlag [any]
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    3 years ago

    pointless question. In the social sense, god is dead, because society has moved pass divine law as the arbiter of morality. In a physical sense, you'd first have to identify what you mean by god. Say you mean the Christian God, or I should say the more general Abrahamic God, you cannot kill Him. He has unlimited power over the Universe, no physical form, and does not require anything to sustain Himself. The unmoved Mover cannot be moved, no matter what. The only aspect of Him which was corporated and shared our weaknesses was killed and brought Himself back, so that's a no go. Let's say you mean a god like from mythologies and religions of pre-Christian europe and asia, they can sometimes be killed, but you don't get their power, their domain simply becomes unruly. Unless you have a means to become them or ascend their throne, you're screwing the world over. Even if you do that, you'll likely be slain by other gods offended you killed their relative, gods have solidarity. If we approach a pantheistic god to slay, or take the approach that the gods of pantheons reflect their domain rather than being entities which control their domain, then there are already people killing god or gods. Pan is burning, Poseidon chokes on plastic, and Hestia has no dwelling.

    • Frank [he/him, he/him]
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      3 years ago

      society has moved pass divine law as the arbiter of morality.

      Would someone please inform the Evangelicals?

      • GreenTeaRedFlag [any]
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        3 years ago

        notice how their particular brand of religious mania was not a thing until rather recently. This is not to deny the religious fervor and often times bigotry which has existed, but that this particular form is an incomplete regression brought about as an arm of neoliberal politics, which feasts on the corpse of society's dead god.

    • sagarmatha [none/use name]
      hexagon
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      3 years ago

      "society has moved past divine laws" are you sure? I would say, at least in the US, the ostensibly secular corpus of laws embodies an awful lot of divine law elements, from the wrath towards the "guilty" to an appeal towards a transcendental (the constitution), really the apostles character of the founding fathers should not be dismissed, nor the sacrificial ritual the US is founded on, even the military is part of that new church, evangelizing or forcing transcendence on their enemies' bodies

      • GreenTeaRedFlag [any]
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        3 years ago

        That's a fair point, but that's not the ideology which is running everything. The weird regression of american society into an earlier form of morality and divine law is a tool of neoliberalism in my opinion, not just a lone phenomena. And neoliberalism is very much motivated by a dead god.

  • TheCaconym [any]
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    3 years ago

    Done already. God is dead. God remains dead. And we have killed him. How shall we comfort ourselves, the murderers of all murderers ? What was holiest and mightiest of all that the world has yet owned has bled to death under our knives: who will wipe this blood off us ? What water is there for us to clean ourselves ? What festivals of atonement, what sacred games shall we have to invent ? Is not the greatness of this deed too great for us ? Must we ourselves not become gods simply to appear worthy of it ?

  • RandyLahey [he/him]
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    3 years ago

    how can you kill a god? what a grand and intoxicating innocence

    • crime [she/her, any]
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      3 years ago

      Antimatter cannon. What's that? God is energy? EMP cannon. God has a faraday cage? Electromagnet

      • RandyLahey [he/him]
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        3 years ago

        how could you be so naive? there is no escape. no recall or intervention can work in this place. come, lay down your weapons, it is not too late for my mercy

  • AssaultRifle15 [he/him]
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    3 years ago

    Get an anti-materiel rifle and fire at a 90° angle. You should do it because it's cool and fun, but more importantly so you can eat God's heart to gain His powers.

    • sagarmatha [none/use name]
      hexagon
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      3 years ago

      would it still count if fired from a technical or do you then imbue technology with Power?

      • Frank [he/him, he/him]
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        3 years ago

        Somewhere in the sahel there is an immortal Hilux with the power of creation.

        • sagarmatha [none/use name]
          hexagon
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          3 years ago

          you're now officially a prophet, good luck with that heavy duty don't get lost in the desert!

  • SuperNovaCouchGuy [any]
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    3 years ago

    Its very easy to kill the Christian god, just ask it to make a rock which it cannot move and the paradox unravels :troll:

    Neoliberal capitalism has already killed any and all religious forms of god, and sat itself in the empty throne to take full advantage of the moralist structures, rituals, magical thinking, and other such tools of societal control looted from the corpse of god. In other words, god is dead, long live god!

  • nergal [none/use name]
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    edit-2
    3 years ago

    God killed itself to create the universe, the planets and stars are gibbets of God's brain, flickering out their last signals in the subjectively drawn out moment of annihilation. God, as 'universal perfection', was entirely incapable of movement or change or interaction, or of having any trait at the expense of another. a horrible and lonely eternity, the sheer fact of existence disarticulated from any particular quality. Imagine having a limitless number of stories to tell, and no one to tell them to. God's death was necessary, inevitable, and a mercy.

  • Frank [he/him, he/him]
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    3 years ago

    For. We must seize heaven by violence. I am in the process of constructing a giant catapult and a nuclear crucifix to finish the job the Romans started two thousand years ago.

    • sagarmatha [none/use name]
      hexagon
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      3 years ago

      for real though, the concept that we must consciously seek transcendence (storm heaven) is pretty interesting and i think goes beyond us just replacing God by ourselves, also redistribute the means of eternal salvation

  • ssjmarx [he/him]
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    3 years ago

    In the developed world, God is already dead.

    In those parts where it is not, then I say kill it. Superstitions are inherently reactionary and must be countered by a materialist worldview.

  • CrimsonSage [any]
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    3 years ago

    Only way to kill God is for humanity to go extinct.