Guess who's also on trial today?

  • emizeko [they/them]
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    3 years ago

    u/maxwellhill is totally her

    people can make counter-claims about private mod chats all they want but there's too much that matches up

    • comradeleninscumsock [she/her]
      hexagon
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      3 years ago

      Reddit powermods are something else, it's like a machiavellian power struggle over ownership of every sub possibly worth money on that site. I guarantee that r/news mods get paid to promote or remove stories, I guarantee that if every major subreddit is able to shut down on command like it has happened many times before then there's a conspiracy of a select few mods controlling what people see on reddit. I guarantee that reddit admins and mods have some really shady deals that could get people at least arrested.

      I remember I made this subreddit a long time back, it was about fucking reddit's advertisers, got popular real fast, then one day these powermods joined the modteam, they talked a big game about following reddit tos and promoting the sub and they were moderating hundreds of subreddits at once, being the naive person I was I gave them all permissions they needed. Next day there was a dozen new mods, all of them were mods in major subreddits, gaming, news, pics, front page shit. They pushed me and the few actual moderators I had out, my account was banned, they took control of the subreddit and locked it because they were literally working with the admins. Pretty sure one of those powermods got banned for posting cp.

      • Awoo [she/her]
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        3 years ago

        I guarantee that if every major subreddit is able to shut down on command like it has happened many times before

        Speaking as someone that's been on the inside of these, they're actually just run by EXTREMELY organised and gifted agitators who are EXCELLENT at mass organising these things.

        I've sat through and watched some of the blackouts and the way they're orchestrated, the organisation and ability to propel them forwards without allowing them to derail is incredibly impressive. I have watched a few play out in the moderator coordination discords that they pop up to coordinate them and I genuinely fucking wish we had people with their skillsets because it's seriously impressive stuff. I genuinely sit through some of what they have done and wondered how I'm ever going to build that skillset and I generally think I have a pretty good skillset as it is, it feels several tiers above what I'm capable of.

        Unfortunately, they are fucking liberals.

        • comradeleninscumsock [she/her]
          hexagon
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          3 years ago

          This is the reason why internet users don't respect moderators, they believe themselves to be the arbiters of truth when in reality they are glorified janitors whos main job is to clean up cp and goatse images. No man or committee should have the power to influence an entire site without the consent of the userbase, that's how social movements die on the internet. Mods try to control something they have no right to control, I'm not saying they should act with neutrality but by god, they are not the leaders.

          • Awoo [she/her]
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            3 years ago

            On internet communities that has never been the case though. Every owner of a forum was previously a community marshall, creating the kind of community they want, and marshalling that community via leadership towards the kind of behaviour and attitudes that they want.

            In consolidating all those forums into one place where people now operate many of them in collective groups, the same thing exists but is just larger.

            It's also no different here on hexbear. The admins and mods are a leadership group who control and marshal the community towards the intended goal.

    • Alex_Jones [he/him]
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      3 years ago

      According to most r*ddit bros, more karma means you're usually more right and/or impressive. But crickets when it comes to their all-star Ghislaine.

  • ultraviolet [she/her]
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    3 years ago

    stormfront not enabling pedos for 5 minutes challenge: impossible

  • RandyLahey [he/him]
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    3 years ago

    i wanted to believe the idea because its so on-brand for reddit, but u/maxwellhill wasnt just a powermod, they were one of the top ten reddit posters

    think about redditors, and then think about how incredibly, unbelievably online you would have to be in order to be in the top ten most online redditors

    spending a bunch of time on reddit? sure. spending that much time on reddit? to me that just doesnt fit

    • Awoo [she/her]
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      3 years ago

      Historically speaking mods used to get more upvotes than everyone else just by being mods. That has dropped off over many changes to the site but in the past you would literally just get upvote bombed for every single distinguished post.

      • RandyLahey [he/him]
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        3 years ago

        i did a quick google and found this, the vast majority of that karma seems to be in the last few years (which i guess is also when reddit removed the ~5k cap on karma per post?)

        and just skimming through the stuff that they posted, its indistinguishable from any other r/politics loser except by volume, so if its her i have to wonder why she would bother?

        • Awoo [she/her]
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          3 years ago

          Almost all of it is link karma. From posts. Throws away my point about getting upvoted for who you are. But link farming is not that difficult if you know what to post and how to title things.

          • RandyLahey [he/him]
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            3 years ago

            my key question is really why she would do it? like that would make her the most link-postingest r/politics nerd out of all the r/politics nerds during the years of trump when they were all frothing at the mouth. thats an incredible level of dedication to the most pedestrian liberalism

            i get being a powermod and maybe quietly deleting some of the posts about her and epstein (still feels like a stretch to me tbh), and maybe being a powermod you need to still post a bit to maintain the facade, but why so much? and why such incredibly generic libshit? and looking through the comments as well, how does an elite socialite who spends all her time hanging out with (and blackmailing) the ruling class manage to write like the most clueless lib to ever cluelessly lib?

            just none of it really fits for me

            • 420blazeit69 [he/him]
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              3 years ago

              Tons of it could have been outsourced. Give a few people account access and some direction and you can post as much as you want. Maybe she put in a few hours each day/did enough drive by posting to keep a reasonably unified tone. Then when shit hits the fan and she dips out the shady-but-less-protected posting team gets out of dodge. Maybe they just stopped getting paid.

              Alternately, she was a terminally-online adult who could get away with it because she had no real job and/or her job was to be a quiet influencer of a pedophile-infested website.

        • comradeleninscumsock [she/her]
          hexagon
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          3 years ago

          If someone posted about her and Epstein's operations then I guess she could remove it or drown it out before it went viral.

    • comradeleninscumsock [she/her]
      hexagon
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      3 years ago

      Reddit started out as a link aggregate site, people share news they don't write the articles. Of course it morphed from there but the bread and butter still is linking. Go post in politics or news or any big reddit sub and your post will be removed. If you can control who posts, then it would be easier for your posts to get upvoted, plus bot accounts are thing.

    • TraschcanOfIdeology [they/them, comrade/them]
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      3 years ago

      I mean, it's not outside of the realm of possibility that she had an employee that she told to handle her reddit account, or had hired some overseas company to manage it. Besides, other than pimping and abusing minors what else was she actually doing?

  • Bernies3trlnKielbasa [he/him]
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    3 years ago

    This is people who are too online, namely redditors, trying to think that online matters IRL. It doesn't. Ghislane had a life, despicable as it was. She wasn't spending hours online posting.

    • comradeleninscumsock [she/her]
      hexagon
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      3 years ago

      https://www.reddit.com/user/maxwellhill/

      The online definitely matters, it's how most people consume the news. You really think the chuds that control reddit are any less evil than facebook or google? The odds of that being her reddit account are very high, if Donald Trump was able to use twitter then it's likely Maxwell used reddit. Everyone uses the internet babe.

      • Bernies3trlnKielbasa [he/him]
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        3 years ago
        1. Don't call me babe; I don't know you and you don't have my consent for such terms.

        2. Lol at "the odds are very high" like there's any meaningful way to calculate that.

        3. Why would someone with access to like actual PR firms be trying to go it alone manipulating reddit? Makes no goddamn sense.

    • The_Walkening [none/use name]
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      3 years ago

      Honestly I don't think it's really out of the question given that none of her peers had real jobs either.

  • ImSoOCD [they/them]
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    3 years ago

    The decision to make it easy to spam bot accounts was deliberate.

    The decision to make pedophilia less visible rather than fully eradicating it was deliberate.

    The decision to selectively enforce free speech was deliberate.

    The decision to pander to right-leaning tech libertarians was deliberate.

    The decision to integrate ex-CIA operatives and shady handlers into their mod teams was deliberate.

    Facebook and Twitter are allowed near-monopoly status because they make mass surveillance cost-effective for world governments. Reddit, however is mostly anonymous and full of throwaways. Wonder what they’re making cost-effective...

    :trueanon:

    • comradeleninscumsock [she/her]
      hexagon
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      3 years ago

      The official story of pizza gate is man walks into DC pizzeria with gun, gets arrested, no kids in the basement, because there was no basement. And this is because high profile democrat politicians frequent it, also didn't one of the owners take pictures of himself with random babies with 🍕 emojis?

      • Neckbeard_Prime [they/them,he/him]
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        3 years ago

        Meanwhile, Epstein had a damn pizza boat... Brace made a comment in one of the early TrueAnon episodes about how PizzaGaters/QAnon people had a lot of "facts" semi-correct, just that all of the actual details were dead wrong.