https://twitter.com/WiseTenderSnob/status/1460687831429439488

  • LibsEatPoop [any]
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    3 years ago

    100%. The Hindutva push for "vegetarianism" doesn't come from any pro-animal liberation perspective. It's straight up casteist and islamophobic rhetoric - they believe "eating meat" makes people "impure". Thus pushing "vegetarian only" housing policy etc. is a way to segregate and discriminate against Muslims, Dalits, Adivasis, Shudras etc.

    • AcidSmiley [she/her]
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      3 years ago

      Reminds me of how the nazis used animal rights to demonize jews for kosher butchery practices or how hogs nowadays rally against halal meat. In the latter case, this is usually coming from people who basically breathe pork and who'll dunk on vegetarians and vegans at every opportunity. The animal rights are just a flimsy excuse for persecuting people, in the same way as eurochuds love to portray muslims as sexist, antisemitic homophobes while being all of these things themselves.

      Not defending carnism here, it's obviously not excusable to murder animals, just pointing out how fascists instrumentalize morality for concern trolling and villifying of minorities. Another example would be the propagandistic mainstay of painting the Chinese as a people of animal abusers.

    • pppp1000 [he/him]
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      3 years ago

      It discriminates against non Muslim and non Hindus too. Just take the people from the north eastern states.

      • LibsEatPoop [any]
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        3 years ago

        Yeah definitely. In the case of the North-East states, its just plain racism. In many ways this focus on "vegetarianism" is pushed only by the older Brahmins trying to impose a fascist ideology as a reaction against rising meat consumption among the youth (esp. urbanized youth). It results in many interesting formulations such as reactionary young Hindus claiming to not eat meat on certain holy days (such as Tuesday) thereby maintaining their purity while denying it to others.

    • OfficialBenGarrison [he/him]
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      3 years ago

      Not to sound like a dumbass, but just for future reference. Since this "purity" shit is used by hogs like Modi, should I refrain from joking that veganism gives you "psychic powers"? I know it's silly and obviously tongue-in-cheek, but I don't want to sound like someone like Modi.

      • LibsEatPoop [any]
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        3 years ago

        Nah not at all. Their notion of "purity" is more about calling others "impure" than putting positive connotations on vegetarians. So, you can definitely say "veganism gives your psychic power" but probably refrain from saying "eating meat makes you impure" to an Indian Muslim.

  • Vampire [any]
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    3 years ago

    hmmm, interested to see where this thread goes

  • Kaputnik [he/him]
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    3 years ago

    I don't understand the reply, what 'anti-human impulses' would underlie that?

    • Barabas [he/him]
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      3 years ago

      When the reason that you're for animal rights is to use it as a cudgel against people you dislike rather than for the sake of animal rights. It is similar to the way that LGBT or women's rights are used to justify war in the middle east. Both things are good, but the way they're wielded is bad and they're not the true goal.

      For the case he mentioned, it was about the Nazis punishing Jews by outlawing kosher butchery under the guise of limiting animal cruelty. For similar contemporary issues, look at any debate in a country in Europe involving headscarves.