Marvel exec: “Hear me out. We literally just bring back all the Sam Raimi supervillains”
Fellow ghoul: “Oh, like write the same characters?”
Marvel exec: “No I mean literally the same actors portraying those particular versions of those characters coming from the Raimi universe”
Fellow ghoul: “......I love it!”
Okay I know we dunk on marvel shit here and that’s fine and all (god Eternals was awful) but I’m so fucking pumped for this movie ngl.
Spiderman ✅
Nostalgia ✅
Tom Hardy’s Venom ✅
Multiverse shit (I loooove time travel and multiverse stories) ✅
Zendaya, probably ✅
Also I know a lot of you really seem to hate the concept of the MCU, and that’s fair, but I honestly really like it. I like shared universe shit that gets so built up and full of stupid back lore that it hardly even makes sense but they try to make it make sense anyway. I really like that about comics but I’ve always really struggled to read comics, so I like that they’ve given me that in a form I enjoy.
It does suck how much influence marvel movies have had on other movies. I wish they could just be stuck in a bubble all by themselves where I can enjoy them but they don’t influence the rest of culture. And the Whedonesque dialogue sucks ass sometimes. But I still think they’re fun.
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I'm with you comrade. Also, Molina's Doc Ock was great - very excited for him. Also, if they let Defoe just inhale scenery again, that's a big win.
Never saw the other movies (rami 3, Amazing 1&2), so can't comment on the other villains, but I'm down for this shit, even if it is corporate hell.
Also, you forgot one check mark
J.K. Simmons back as Sicko-Allfather JJJ-GOD ✅
Molina’s Doc Ock and DaFoe’s Green Goblin are so good, I’m all about it. The villains from the ones you missed all suck tbh. I did really like Garfield as Spider-Man but his villains were lame.
And YES J.K. Simmons is the ultimate JJJ and when he first showed up at the end of whatever movie it was I was so fucking pumped. And then again when he showed up at the end of Venom 2. Oh I’m so excited.
I like the concept of the MCU, I just wish the movies weren't so formulaic. The most exciting Marvel movies are the ones that step outside the norm in some way, but most of them are just "good guy uses macguffin to stop bad guy while dealing with a personal issue" and that gets stale after a while.
Yeah that’s fair, but also that’s kind of like, most sci-fi and fantasy plot line at a basic level, is it not?
Yeah, I oversimplified it a bit. It's more that there is a collection of traits that are common to most MCU movies, which make them look, sound, and feel very similar, and having watched a bunch of them I'm thoroughly tired of those traits so unless an entry goes outside the box in a notable way I can't get excited for it even if it's a character I like like Spiderman.
All tension must be interrupted by the music dropping out and someone making a quirkily awkward dad joke before continuing. Gets a few laughs in the theaters because people view them in groups and then they just break tension and flow because they happen so often
I would be satisfied if they were just color graded less boringly. I loved Doctor Strange just because the spectacle of it had some variety. The fractal shit they did in that movie was badass