I once got in a really weird argument with a redditor who I simply suggested to that cultured meats will likely never scale up. I was so fascinated with how anxious the redditor seemed as they accused me of being a big Ag shill, then a VEGAN, then a Luddite who was try to dissuade the public. That the only problem is public perception.
I didn't even say it was going to be unhealthy if though it is going to be goo used to make burgers and chicken nuggets. I just said it's not going to happen because the laws of physics as detailed in a really good article below. And if anybody was insane enough to put billions into the kind of facilities you would need to mass produce this food then you are talking about $17 chicken nuggets that wouldn't even be vegan.
https://thecounter.org/lab-grown-cultivated-meat-cost-at-scale/
Not only that but the significant energy required for the clean room environments to grow these cells could make it even more carbon intensive then even beef agriculture.
https://www.frontiersin.org/articles/10.3389/fsufs.2019.00005/full
They just started babbling that people's insane demand for meat dictates no other solution can be found. But people increasingly don't want slop like burgers or nuggets, carnivores want their steak medium done rare and basic bitch rack of lamb on easter. Why does the customer always have to be right? So what people want meat, they also want sport cars and mcmansions. People are shits and giving a select minority of them almost everything they could want is destroying this planet.
Never understood why you need cultured meat for a burger patty. You're already drowning the patty in sauce and wrap it in a thick layer of salad and bread, i doubt anybody could tell the difference between meat, cultured meat and the more widespread meat substitutes in a blind test if we're talking about an actual burger instead of just the pure patty.
Not to mention that a jackfruit, grünkern or black bean patty tastes better than any of these to begin with. There's excellent vegan nuggets and fishsticks out there, too. For all the fast food stuff, there's already zero need to eat corpse parts.
A good ol' black bean burger is always so much better than one of those patties that tries to pretend to be meat.
:this:
on the same note, I wish they'd stop with like the "cashew cheese" and shit. it looks and sounds gross. it's ok to say it's a friggin cashew sauce or cashew butter (like peanut butter, not like butter) or whatever.
Haha yeah, I feel like there's a lot that doesn't need to try so hard to be like "hey look we eat meat too!!"
I personally love me some cashew cheese.
are black bean burger a thing that predates the beyond meat craze? Because ive been avoiding it for that reason.
yes!
personally I prefer veggie/mushroom burgers to black bean burgers. beans are good but they should be eaten slowly, not scarfed down
I tend to think of veggie burgers as "black bean burgers", but maybe I'm mixing up two different things? My favorite burgers usually have corn, beans, some peppers, and other veggies, shaped into a patty/fritter.
Dont know why anyone would want an imitation black bean burger, especially if it has to be made of animal parts. I'll stick to the real thing :bean:
So true, this is the way.