Not surprising since they were raised on fairy tales that deemed the search for knowledge to be the first "sin".

    • emizeko [they/them]
      ·
      1 year ago

      美国梦是个人发财的梦
      讲究冒险
      通过个人奋斗达到所谓的成功
      成为有产者
      然后去剥削别人
      中国梦是共同富裕
      追求的是人民幸福
      换句话说
      美国梦是个人梦
      是为美元的梦
      中国梦是人民梦
      是为人民服务的梦
      这就是二者的本质区别
      以后不要在我面前提起美国梦
      俗气

      https://www.youtube.com/shorts/pP7p2ocNWZo

      • asg101 [none/use name, comrade/them]
        hexagon
        ·
        1 year ago

        美国梦是个人发财的梦 讲究冒险 通过个人奋斗达到所谓的成功 成为有产者 然后去剥削别人 中国梦是共同富裕 追求的是人民幸福 换句话说 美国梦是个人梦 是为美元的梦 中国梦是人民梦 是为人民服务的梦 这就是二者的本质区别 以后不要在我面前提起美国梦 俗气

        Thank you for this comrade, it enriches us all.

        • emizeko [they/them]
          ·
          1 year ago

          thanks I kinda needed to hear that right now, I've been slapfighting with bsky liberals

  • smokeppb [he/him]
    ·
    1 year ago

    Being "woke" is to be aware of prevailing social issues. According to Wikipedia it was BLM that made it popular around the time of the Ferguson protests.

    When conservatives try to use woke as a pejorative, they're really trying their best to make it uncool to be woke. And thus keep the general public from investigating these social issues.

    It's all PR and marketing of the issue to them as well as to the libs.

    • asg101 [none/use name, comrade/them]
      hexagon
      ·
      1 year ago

      It's all PR and marketing of the issue to them as well as to the libs.

      All basically part of the divide and conquer culture wars that convince working people that we are each other's enemies, rather than the oligarchs that keep us fighting each other. And it has been working like a charm for thousands of years.

  • roux [he/him, they/them]
    ·
    1 year ago

    Fun game: Ask them to define "woke" without sounding like they are on an elementary school playground.

    • axont [she/her, comrade/them]
      ·
      1 year ago

      At best they'll define it as "belief in systemic injustice where none exists." That's what they believe, that everything perfectly fine and as God intended, except the problems white people face. If they were honest they'd define it as "too much focus on people who aren't white christian suburbanites."

  • StellarTabi [none/use name]
    ·
    1 year ago

    Woke just means "aware the US is a white supremacist society" so complaining about wokeness is basically self-identifying as a fascist.

  • zifnab25 [he/him, any]
    ·
    1 year ago

    Half the joke is how "Wake Up Sheeple" used to be a line liberals casually tossed at conspiracy minded conservatives and libertarians. XKCD made this joke back in 2009 with a zinger about "six Ayn Rand fans on the same subway car" in the mouse-over text.

    As the derogatory nature of the term moved from the liberal sphere to the conservative one, it changed from casual mockery to a conspiracy theory in its own right. Being "Woke" wasn't about being a gullible Alex Jones dork, convinced of a thousand invisible monsters only they could see. It became a monster of its own, a vast government conspiracy to brainwash young people into doubting Alex Jones and his ilk.

    The term has always been a kind-of double-speak when used in opposition. It is intended to imply a delusion imposed on you by some outside source. Being "Woke" actually means being ignorant by way of self-conviction. If we weren't forced to use baby words in public discourse, a better term might be "Hubristic". And the border implication of the accusation actually is that the group of people who have rallied around "Wokeness" or who are pounding the table shouting "Wake up! Wake up! Wake up!" at a disaffected audience, are gaining strength by way of this shared false conviction.

    • roux [he/him, they/them]
      ·
      edit-2
      1 year ago

      I think this is perfectly acceptable because it brings out the point that all these things are essentially just profit driven anyway and that maybe making the world a better place for everyone shouldn't be monetized.

      Or at least that's my take.

    • DragonBallZinn [he/him]
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      1 year ago

      This is all well and good. It's perfect for describing some phenomena like "woke homophobia" where some libs try to go full fujoshi on men who are insecure with their masculinity, but it comes off as them fetishizing queer men at best, or confirming that they see queerness as embarrassing.

  • DragonBallZinn [he/him]
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    edit-2
    1 year ago

    gigachad: "Woke? So, you mean like I've taken the redpill? I couldn't agree more!"

    Granted, I suppose we should have our own dogwhistle that means the same thing. I thought of "putting on the sunglasses" as our equivalent of "taking the redpill" and "wearing sunglasses" as "redpilled". Doesn't roll off the tongue as well, but that's not the point anyways. Our ideology isn't supposed to get by on fashionability like the CHUDs can.

    • WithoutFurtherBelay
      ·
      1 year ago

      redpilled is literally from the Matrix which was made by trans women afaik, so we can just use it and the chuds can suck our balls