When talking about the Holocaust Revisionism (apparently according to them, the after-credits scene of King’s Man shows Lenin and Hitler colluding), they’re like “oh it’s fantasy, it’s dumb, fiction, fictional”
When talking about the fact that I walked out of the movie, they’re like “so disrespectful, put aside your convictions, just want to spend time, can’t enjoy media with you around because you won’t just blindly consoom”
Liberals continue to be fine with fascist propaganda if it’s said in a calm voice. We’re fucking Jewish. I don’t know how they aren’t taking offense to this. I have ancestors who died in the holocaust.
They still won’t shut up about how I have to like Harry Potter because i’m “letting her politics get in the way of her story something something Orson Scott Card.”
I say we should have seen the new matrix instead and everyone in the car is like “noooooooo” like what the actual fuck AM I THE ONLY ONE WHO’D RATHER WATCH A POTENTIALLY BAD MOVIE OVER A ‘GOOD’ STORY WITH HOLOCAUST REVISIONISM IN THIS FAMILY? FUCK YOU! :matt-jokerfied:
Liberals are a hivemind and their sole directive is uncritical consumption. I feel like im being low key gaslit with the amount them and my brother are trying to convince me I wasn’t right to walk out of a movie that apparently contained HOLOCAUST REVISIONISM!!! :marx-joker:
Lenin and Hitler colluding
Ah yes, Lenin and Hitler, famous contemporary leaders
I thought the narrative was "Stalin bad" "Lenin maybe not bad" around the states but apparently this movie went beyond normal brainworms
I don't think Lenin not bad is even that popular, with the influence :chompsky: has, he dislikes Lenin for outlawing independent unions without much analysis on why he wanted Soviet councils.
Inglorious Basterds is a great movie about how killing Nazis is cool and good and it would have been cool if Hitler died in a fire. At the very least the movie's thesis is Nazis should die no matter how respectable or well spoken they are. Let me have that.
If you effortposted about this thesis I'd read the shit.out of that. Here for this take.
With Jojo Rabbit, idk if replacing the Americans who take Berlin in it with the Red Army would actually be better.
In the end they're indiscriminately killing Nazis and that commander saves the kid from being killed. They were going to kill a 10 year old by firing squad, if it were Red Army in the movie I think that would've shifted the focus to Soviet barbarism instead of the commander saving the kid and accepting his fate that he knew he deserved.
I didn't actually realize they were Soviet with American accents, that's a weird choice.
I took that scene as captain k not trying to save himself because he knew he deserved it, and trying to save Jojo.
I thought Jojo was given a random nazi jacket (not youth uniform) off a dead body by rebel Wilson and given a gun when they played the nazi defense of Berlin for absurdity.
I think there's an Adam Curtis documentary that goes into how the Allies led a massive PR campaign after WWII, especially the Americans, to attribute extra meaning and context to the war. I can't remember which series of his its' on.
after-credits scene of King’s Man shows Lenin and Hitler colluding
What the fuck
If I could add literally one thing to the average American's brain, it would be the overwhelming contribution of lives the Soviet Union sacrificed to defeating the Nazis. Is there any more obscene delusion than Americans thinking America is the hero that won WW2? It's genuinely disgusting. The entire world should be grateful every single day for the Red Army.
Lenin and Hitler colluding :cringe:
What if BOTH SIDES are bad and British imperialism is good, actually?
It's not about actually "doing" something together, it's about sharing the same experience. So that when someone says "This just like in X movie when Y person did Z thing" you know what they're talking about. It's like sitting around swapping stories so that it's part of the communal memory.
Not saying this is good, just saying that is the social function being served by watching movies together.
Depends on what you're watching and how active you are about it. If you can talk during the movie, or you've got it on in the background because you've seen it a million times, or you're doing a Rocky Horror style call back, it can be social.
It's also fun to watch a movie and talk about it afterwards. My wife and I got a few hours of Convo off the latest Matrix, for instance.
Watching things with my wife really feels like a social activity because we're both huge nerds and we're both writers and we write together a lot. So whenever we see something together we'll spend hours after the fact breaking but down, talking about what worked and what didn't and what edits we'd make to make it better if we had that power
I feel like watching a good movie (by today's standards ridiculously good) with someone in a theater is bonding, but if you're not able to talk about it after it wasn't.
You probably all talk bout the movie afterwards for a bit. As well as travel there and back together
As the mushroom cloud forms over Hiroshima, a red-haired and pale-skinned man smirks and rubs his hands together menacingly.
"This will lead to a successful IndyRef2 in 2023" he cackles.
What if world wars were the result of a few shady people making schemes to cause discord? They're totally not conscious and purposeful actions of states who use war to get something they want. They're only tricked into war.
The second Guy Richie Sherlock did this too with WWI and it drives me nuts. The only good thing is that it at least admitted that people profit off war.
They keep doing this with WW1, or play on it like with WW where it was just humanity, but it is used as justification for empire asnd genocide
Even disregarding JKR, Harry Potter is bad. It's single-handedly responsible for 93% of individualist elitism in young adults.
it's dogshit I don't know how people liked it
every creature in the book has already been done a billion times
it's unique selling point is that it's kids doing magic but then all the weird shit that happens at schools is never mentioned - there's no unique spin or imagination of how school would be delivered and how logistics of the world around them would be. The implications of magic are fucking enormous and none of it's considered.
As a kid I tried to read them at a few different ages - every time I thought to myself 'damn, I wouldn't want to be friends with anyone in this book.'
They're all lame cretins - when I was thirteen I was doin loads of fun stuff, makin crude jokes, doing dumb challenges, gettin into fights, saying terrible things about people - just generally being a complete moron.
Maybe it's just not made for me. I always hated YA novels or ones that are about kids saving the world.
rant over jfc
I think one of the main reasons hp blew up is because every book covered one school year and most books were coming out once per year. So for example when I was 12, harry potter was 12 too, same at 13, 14, etc. We aged at the same time. I remember finding him relatable when he was too shy to ask a girl out in the fourth book, you know, generic teenager stuff. I also remember reading the first one when I was fourteen and I was kinda bored of it because I was basically too old to read it.
I don't understand how anyone can get into these books without being hp's age, but for me and everyone in my year it was pretty easy.
They still won’t shut up about how I have to like Harry Potter because i’m “letting her politics get in the way of her story something something Orson Scott Card.”
Imagine trying to defend Harry Potter by invoking OSC. God damn.
aw thats so fucking gross. No one in america knows anything about history or reality, so its so easy to plant these things in people brains. Scary Russia guy did holocaust!! Communism == Fascism.
You were right to get mad, also, arent all the kingsman movies pretty blatantly reactionary?
Eh, it's a mixed bag. The first one is about how a tech billionaire, the global elite, and the spy group the main character works for are working together to kill a shitload of poor people to stop "overpopulation". IIRC the plan is to give out free cellphones which emit some magic berserker frequency that causes anyone who hears it to kill everyone around them. The main character is from a poor background.
The second is about a drug kingpin infecting every drug user in the US with a deadly virus, and will only distribute the antidote if they stop the war on drugs and grant her cartel immunity. The president pretends to negotiate, but in reality is planning to let all of the infected die because he hates "junkies". There's also a US spy who betrays them because he also wants all drug users to die.
But then the main character is dating a princess, and is playing up the aesthetic of being a "british gentleman".
As a jew, holocaust revisionism is very frustrating. When it's coming out of your jewish mom's mouth, it's much worse. And then when you flip out everyone just thinks you're insane. I'll engage in a little racial essentialism and say It's not so shocking coming from my Polish dad (even though he's American born).
