Cause neither pretends to be a leftist while getting trotted out by the DNC to give legitimacy to their reactionary candidate among the left, nor do they pretend to be leftists while celebrating the fall of the USSR and likening it to the defeat of Axis powers (which of course only happened because of the USSR)
So? Still wouldn’t wish dementia on the guy, there are prolly tens of millions people shittier than our boy for one thing, second thing why be sectarian over it, when these shittier ghouls are right there. bloomberg also prolly celebrated ussr collapse, and got wheeled out by dnc.
Or definition of a leftist is to immediately attack left-adjacent people with some bad opinions as first example? :meow-tableflip:
I don't wish dementia on the guy, but among the categories of old school leftists, it sucks to lose the cool ones (Graeber and parenti) rather than the shills
Is it sectarian to point out that it's awful lib shit to celebrate the collapse of the USSR and liken it to the defeat of fascist powers in Europe? Because if you honestly believe that the fall of the USSR was anything but a catastrophe for the human race (going by the last 30 years of the USA as a largely-unchallenged global superpower) then I don't know what to tell you
Being from russia, it is lib yes, but then again irrelevant as chomsky didn’t have anything to do with it. I still harbor much darker feelings toward Kissinger and gorbachev (out of alive people). As this comment started “why not the other guy getting dementia” (or at least could be read this way), this “other guy” example can be just as well a true ghoul, and not lose any meaning :sadness-abysmal:
Oh sure if we're ranking people as a whole then I'd much rather any horrible fate befell Kissinger and actual ghouls first, but if we're going in the category of "left adjacent old people" then I'd rather bad things not happen to the best ones
Bro, how come his mind goes, but :die-motherfucker: stays
With op’s.
Framing of left-adjacent is forced by op, it’s not required by comment intention. Additionally arguing which left figure would rather get dementia has same energy as who do you love more, mother or father? There is no good outcome to answer, so argument is bad by itself
"Who do you love more, mother or father" is a very easy question though, I hate my dad less than I hate my mom so it's him.
I don't think there's anything wrong with keeping an ordered list of people you'd rather not have bad things happen to. I think it goes without saying for most of the site that Kissinger is at or near the top, and I don't think there's any problem with not listing him every time.
I will always disagree that there's anything wrong with OP comparing a leftist and a left-anticommunist that famously had beef with him, and wishing that the good one was doing better than the other.
I mean sectarianism is wrong, at least completely unprovoked. Reading this comment for anarchist would be somewhat shitty, while kissinger one would be fine.
a) riddle me this:
No author works in a vacuum. This critique builds on work that came before it. I want to express my gratitude to persons who played no active role in the preparation of this manuscript but whose efforts provided a valuable foundation and inspiration for my own, specifically George Seldes, James Aronson, Noam Chomsky Herbert Gans, Robert Cirino, Todd Gitlin, Alexander Cockburn, Peter Drier, Andrew Kopkind, Edward Herman , -preface to Inventing Reality
b) he cites herman throughout the book, which quick ctrl-f will confirm for you
I've read lorenzoe article, the failure to cite is whatever academic failure. That chomsky found a niche to grift himself a living by not pissing the state too much, and being leftward manufactured consent victim - sure. I wouldnt wish dementia on him tho
My response to the end of Soviet tyranny was similar to my reaction to the defeat of Hitler and Mussolini. In all cases, it is a victory for the human spirit. It should have been particularly welcome to socialists, since a great enemy of socialism had at last collapsed.
More like :LIB: grandpa, guy doesn't even identify as anarchist. Usually calls himself left libertarian and almost called himself a syndicalist decades ago but never committed.
Left libertarianism is used in a much wider sense than anarchism and includes people like Bookchin and liberals like Chomsky. There are left libertarians that don't believe in the deconstruction of key hierarchies, for example, so long as certain liberties are retained. Example: Peter Vallentyne's self-label is accepted despite him having zero economic analysis and generally supporting capitalism and liberalism.
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Why not take kissinger as an example or queen? :downbear:
Cause neither pretends to be a leftist while getting trotted out by the DNC to give legitimacy to their reactionary candidate among the left, nor do they pretend to be leftists while celebrating the fall of the USSR and likening it to the defeat of Axis powers (which of course only happened because of the USSR)
So? Still wouldn’t wish dementia on the guy, there are prolly tens of millions people shittier than our boy for one thing, second thing why be sectarian over it, when these shittier ghouls are right there. bloomberg also prolly celebrated ussr collapse, and got wheeled out by dnc.
Or definition of a leftist is to immediately attack left-adjacent people with some bad opinions as first example? :meow-tableflip:
I don't wish dementia on the guy, but among the categories of old school leftists, it sucks to lose the cool ones (Graeber and parenti) rather than the shills
Is it sectarian to point out that it's awful lib shit to celebrate the collapse of the USSR and liken it to the defeat of fascist powers in Europe? Because if you honestly believe that the fall of the USSR was anything but a catastrophe for the human race (going by the last 30 years of the USA as a largely-unchallenged global superpower) then I don't know what to tell you
Being from russia, it is lib yes, but then again irrelevant as chomsky didn’t have anything to do with it. I still harbor much darker feelings toward Kissinger and gorbachev (out of alive people). As this comment started “why not the other guy getting dementia” (or at least could be read this way), this “other guy” example can be just as well a true ghoul, and not lose any meaning :sadness-abysmal:
Oh sure if we're ranking people as a whole then I'd much rather any horrible fate befell Kissinger and actual ghouls first, but if we're going in the category of "left adjacent old people" then I'd rather bad things not happen to the best ones
Ok, compare following comment:
Bro, how come his mind goes, but :die-motherfucker: stays
With op’s.
Framing of left-adjacent is forced by op, it’s not required by comment intention. Additionally arguing which left figure would rather get dementia has same energy as who do you love more, mother or father? There is no good outcome to answer, so argument is bad by itself
"Who do you love more, mother or father" is a very easy question though, I hate my dad less than I hate my mom so it's him.
I don't think there's anything wrong with keeping an ordered list of people you'd rather not have bad things happen to. I think it goes without saying for most of the site that Kissinger is at or near the top, and I don't think there's any problem with not listing him every time.
I will always disagree that there's anything wrong with OP comparing a leftist and a left-anticommunist that famously had beef with him, and wishing that the good one was doing better than the other.
Sorry for comparison :meow-hug:
I mean sectarianism is wrong, at least completely unprovoked. Reading this comment for anarchist would be somewhat shitty, while kissinger one would be fine.
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a) riddle me this: No author works in a vacuum. This critique builds on work that came before it. I want to express my gratitude to persons who played no active role in the preparation of this manuscript but whose efforts provided a valuable foundation and inspiration for my own, specifically George Seldes, James Aronson,
Noam ChomskyHerbert Gans, Robert Cirino, Todd Gitlin, Alexander Cockburn, Peter Drier, Andrew Kopkind,Edward Herman, -preface to Inventing Realityb) he cites herman throughout the book, which quick ctrl-f will confirm for you
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I've read lorenzoe article, the failure to cite is whatever academic failure. That chomsky found a niche to grift himself a living by not pissing the state too much, and being leftward manufactured consent victim - sure. I wouldnt wish dementia on him tho
Chomsky isn't an anarchist though, he doesn't call himself one?
He's close enough to ruffle some feathers. At least in the past.
Isn’t he ansyn?
Do not speak about Anarchist grandpa like that. Shame on you. Poisonous motherfucker.
:LIB:
More like :LIB: grandpa, guy doesn't even identify as anarchist. Usually calls himself left libertarian and almost called himself a syndicalist decades ago but never committed.
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Left libertarianism is used in a much wider sense than anarchism and includes people like Bookchin and liberals like Chomsky. There are left libertarians that don't believe in the deconstruction of key hierarchies, for example, so long as certain liberties are retained. Example: Peter Vallentyne's self-label is accepted despite him having zero economic analysis and generally supporting capitalism and liberalism.
Shame on you, :LIB:
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