It´s just a hunch for me, but conservatives have already given up on the whole civility thing which I have yet to experience a single liberal abandon. When people talk about their journey towards leftism, it´s either they used to be chuds or they were never sold on capitalism to begin with.

This is just anecdotal and based on my scewed experience. Anyone got something to add or refute?

  • axont [she/her, comrade/them]
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    3 years ago

    Most of my experience in trying to turn people was during the two times I tried unionizing my workplace. I don't have a lot of experience elsewhere.

    In that regard, there was a complete 100% split between conservatives and liberals that depended entirely on if they went to college and if had more job prospects. The liberals went to college and were much less receptive to unionizing, since they thought it was unnecessary. The conservatives are of course full of absolute conspiracy brainworms and ambient racism, however they were far more receptive to the unionizing effort. A lot of them had never even heard of a union before. The libs were aware of what I was talking about and without fail every single one of them realized it would have made their ascension to management more difficult. Ultimately, one of the liberal types who was on board blamed the failure to unionize on "stupid people," who were supposedly too uneducated to know what was good for them. One of the conservatives blamed it directly on the boss and a hostile workplace.

    This isn't to say I think conservatives are more easily swayed. It came down to a matter of class distinction. The conservatives viewed themselves as workers first and foremost, whereas the liberals I knew were already ideologically associating with upper management. My rural chud idiot relatives who scream about Qanon and great replacement see themselves not as workers, but divinely powered holy crusaders protecting America from communist hordes, so I doubt I could get anything across to them, including unions. Doesn't help a lot of them are small business owning dipshits too.

    Honestly I haven't met very many typical American liberals. There weren't a lot where I grew up and I'm kind of antisocial now. My impression is they're a complete wildcard, because they're generally either a liberal out of confusion or they know how the sausage is made and are liberals at some core level. I think maybe turning people depends on how ideologically committed they are. Most people in America who identify as one political stream or another just do so because that's what their friends and family are, they often haven't thought very hard about it.

    • CommieElon [he/him]
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      3 years ago

      This rich liberal coworker told me “okay we get it. You love unions.” His parents own rental properties in LA and Lake Tahoe. I should have knocked him out.

      • axont [she/her, comrade/them]
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        3 years ago

        I think I despise people who grew up with rich parents more than anyone else, if they don't break out of their ideology that is. It's like the worst aspects of general lib/chud shit mixed with infuriating smugness. They're so often reprehensible on both an ideological and personal level.

        • CommieElon [he/him]
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          3 years ago

          It’s the smugness and lack of compassion toward anyone that I can’t stand.