Yeah, I think it often comes down to why they're against leftism. The chuds are often so full of confused racism and bigotry and that's their entire reason. Some kind of grand conspiracy and racial panic. Liberals think they can get to a point of outsmarting capitalism, that all it takes is a few tweaks here and there and the system will be perfect forever. Since the chuds are coming from a position of incoherent nonsense, it can sometimes be easy to get them into at least something like unionizing or mutual aid, or that can be incredibly difficult. Who knows.

I'm biased though because every liberal I've known has been a professional class college educated type who has at least some awareness of what leftists believe so they've made a conscious decision to remain a liberal. Conservatives I've met usually don't make a distinction nor do they believe there's anything more complicated politically than "good christian conservative white Americans" versus "everything I don't like."