It´s just a hunch for me, but conservatives have already given up on the whole civility thing which I have yet to experience a single liberal abandon. When people talk about their journey towards leftism, it´s either they used to be chuds or they were never sold on capitalism to begin with.
This is just anecdotal and based on my scewed experience. Anyone got something to add or refute?
Hard disagree, a good number of chuds I know believe being trans is a sin, just to pick one issue. They eventually stopped making transphobic comments around me but they still do it in a different chat. One person/"friend" said he would get fired before he would be forced to use someone's correct pronouns. You might be able to turn these people Nazbol but that's not progress. They may eventually come around but that's on them.
Meanwhile I have two lib friends I'm working on who are close to getting it. They're not even hardcore against socialism, they just don't think our problems as a country and planet are serious enough and that socialism isn't a practical option (and since they're only looking at change via electoralism, can't say I disagree there.)
I guess we have very different crowds then. I live in europe where practically everyone around me is leaving the church right now. Liberal or conservative, or even my old catholic teacher is without confession now. And when it comes to intenet interaction, I rarely ever see people arguing from a religious point of view. So in that sense, I have very little issue conversing with those considered conservative here. I´ve never met any truly religious crazy person except maybe one, the ex-friend of a cousin, and I only found out because they broke up over his evangelicalism fueled anti-vax bs.
I totally get you. I wouldn´t even know how to talk to a cultist on social issues like they seem to be relatively common in the US.
Ah yes, very different social contexts between the US and Europe, for sure. The settler colonial mindset here is very powerful, especially among white chuds.
You made a mistake not mentioning that you were talking about eroupe in the post. As you just mentioned this is a completely different question entirely in burgerland which when asked like that is usually a hard lol no.
I was also including online, but fair.
This is a mostly US based site. You are totally right that in the rest of the world, conservatives are more likely to align with working class views.
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