Not us Chapos specifically, but I see on reddit and fb a shit ton of actual vitriol spewn back and forth between MLs, ancoms, anarchists and others. To the point where they're banning and attacking others they deem too tankie or not woke enough. On here it's pretty dang inclusive. I haven't seen too much infighting, and who doesn't love the sarcastic jab every once in awhile?

The stuff that happened in Kenosha has me pretty dang shook, and it's not over. I have a friend who lives with his brother out in Kenosha, and this was minutes from his house. I live four hours away from Kenosha and I easily can see this going down in any city closeby me.

Right now it feels like the fascists outnumber us. Not only the out-and-out fascists, but there is a LOT of wishy-washy support for civility and police. When it gets down to physical violence and shooting from both sides, people won't distinguish the leftists from the nazis, they'll condemn both and want to go back to normal as quickly as possible.

So the only common struggle that we have is with each other. Socialists and anarchists both want to dismantle the capitalist system and achieve egality. We all want to keep this earth going for awhile, (well, except maybe for you posadists), and we all want to defend ourselves and defeat the fascists. We can only have the numbers high enough to do this if we can reach out, not only intersectionally and inter-ideologically, but in real life and in other social media spaces.

I could see this site getting large enough to have the strength to spread propaganda, infiltrate, and reach out. We should organize and develop strategies here (maybe have a separate community for it?) and try to get our ideals out into the world better. Because right now, it doesn't feel like too many people in the middle are ready to fight with us.

Idk, I just smoked for the first time in a week and this has been on my mind today.

  • ComradeMikey [he/him]
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    4 years ago

    while I 100% agree that fascists are super minor chunk of people what im worried about is the leftist numbers are equally small and we will all become eaten by capitalist BS. Thanks fam for allowing me to suspend those anxieties for at least a bit

    • Awoo [she/her]
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      4 years ago

      We're all in a permanent state of being eaten by capitalist BS but the reality of the strength of the fascists shouldn't be confused with that of the state or neoliberals.

      What we SHOULD be concerned about is a real, actual, competent fascist in power. Trump is not that though.

      Too often the left is conflating the forces of the state, the idea that Trump is an actual real fascist of the palingenetic ultranationalist variety, the neoliberals, and the actual fascists in the country as all the same thing. They're not. They're separate things and should be regarded as such. Sometimes they're aligned against the left, but, they are also aligned against one another in many ways.

      We are doing ourselves a disservice by speaking of these various forces as one monolithic enemy. They are all enemies, but they are not the same force and the dangerous-fascists are actually far smaller than we are in mobilised numbers. I strongly believe that we need pushback against this view of all our opponents as one entity.

      • lvysaur [he/him]
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        4 years ago

        This

        Just as one example, Trump still loves Israel