1: People will fixate on the morality of the two systems as a math problem, i.e., which system killed more people? According to the people doing most of these counts – largely anticommunist orgs – the communists killed more people numerically, and because the context of any of that is irrelevant, they must be worse.
This is why I’m a fan of unfavorably comparing the number of kills by WW2 hero Audie Murphy with the Golden State Killer as a response to highlight that death tolls are one of the dumbest ways to evaluate morality.
I'll add that it's common for these people to only count the Jewish victims of the holocaust who died specifically in the various death-camps, and leave out everybody else that the Nazis killed (most notably all the soldiers and civilians of the countries they invaded). So, they'll often arrive at only a ~6 million figure for the Nazis.
In addition to the genocide at home, the Nazi army basically had shoot-to-kill orders for all Eastern Europeans - but those deaths get lumped into general Soviet deaths, which is part of the reason why their number is so much higher than everyone else's.
In what context??? Isn't like 90% of that show characters spewing facts and statistics at each other as rhetorical flourish? I tried watching it a few years ago and I couldn't make it past the second episode.
lol it's the title of episode 21 of season 1I'm sorry
edit: this isn't the clip where bartlet says it, but I refuse to watch any more westwing to find the clip, which I think was near the end of the episode.
"There are lies, damned lies, and statistics."
I'll add that it's common for these people to only count the Jewish victims of the holocaust who died specifically in the various death-camps, and leave out everybody else that the Nazis killed (most notably all the soldiers and civilians of the countries they invaded). So, they'll often arrive at only a ~6 million figure for the Nazis.
In addition to the genocide at home, the Nazi army basically had shoot-to-kill orders for all Eastern Europeans - but those deaths get lumped into general Soviet deaths, which is part of the reason why their number is so much higher than everyone else's.
It makes me so sad that exposure to The West Wing in college taught me this quote
In what context??? Isn't like 90% of that show characters spewing facts and statistics at each other as rhetorical flourish? I tried watching it a few years ago and I couldn't make it past the second episode.
lol it's the title of episode 21 of season 1I'm sorry
edit: this isn't the clip where bartlet says it, but I refuse to watch any more westwing to find the clip, which I think was near the end of the episode.