Hello,
Today the !covid@hexbear.net and !doomer@hexbear.net communities were created.
As of now they are not set to appear in the /all feed so in order to see posts here you have to subscribe.
They do appear in the /all feed and will require users not wanting to see these posts to ensure they subscribe to all communities they do want to see and then change their feed to subscribed only in their settings
Please post !covid@hexbear.net or !doomer@hexbear.net appropriate posts in their respective communities.
Going forward covid/doomer posts that are not in those communities may be crossposted there & removed.
Posts that are without a content warning and/or are titled in a sensational/excessive/clickbait way will be crossposted to one of these communities & removed from the community it was originally posted in, consider using the sourced article headline with a content warning to avoid having this occur.
I know this is an inconvenience and posts restricted to those communities may not get as much engagement but for now this change is intended to help.
If you see a post in another community that may be more appropriate for !covid@hexbear.net or !doomer@hexbear.net please report them.
This post intends to discuss this change so please comment any questions, comments, or concerns regarding this. Thank you
This change is a result of user concerns raised in:
https://hexbear.net/post/166749
https://hexbear.net/post/166985
This isn't opt-out, it's opt-in.
Which, since I don't even remember if we had to opt-in to seeing posts from any communities previously through /all, means almost no one is going to see these posts.
And where's the boundary around talking about covid? What's doomerism, really?
This is a poor solution.
I agree. At least make the new comms opt-out rather than opt-in. The opt-in comms on this site tend to get ignored, because we took a community that was a single subreddit and split it into many. I’m fine with having all the covid news in one place so those who want to can hide it, but shoving it all somewhere no one will see it isn’t a good answer.
And c/doomer is even worse. Like 80-90% of posts on this site could be considered doomer. Is c/doomer just the new main/chapotraphouse now?
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I think changing them to appear in /all would be a good compromise
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I mean most struggle sessions are either petty or decided in advance based on if the mods are in a good mood, so I’m glad that topic has been suppressed.
If people are having problems with communities they can also unsub. Why should the onus be on the vast majority of users who have no problems with these posts?
Creating this opt-in model will just create endless communities that could be covered by reading the title of the post or the CW. If someone is harmed by discussions of rape will there be a seperate rape/molestation community for news? A CW or title should be enough for people not to click on those posts. Why move the posts to an opt in community and kill discussion?
There is absolutely no reason to create new communities for this small of a site. I'd rethink this.
Does Psaki being snarky about how they're going to continue to do nothing about Covid go in c/covid or not?
I agree with CCA that they should appear in /all. It's inconvenient for people who want to filter out those posts to have to manually subscribe to everything else and sort by subscribed, but that's more realistic than every user that doesn't want them filtered to manually subscribe. Critically, because it won't be obvious that you need to do that if you don't read this thread.
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Now does my example not go in c/news or c/videos? That's what I think will be tricky, since users will still absolutely be posting the particularly choice examples of incompetence wherever it fits.
I don't think people usually read the copypasta block in megathreads. I know I haven't in months. I'd like to hear from people who don't want to see the posts in question and what their thoughts on defaults are.
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Word up. Hope nothing comes across as bellicose, just trying to be straightforward.
Could you please rephrase the title of this post then to clarify it's a community discussion? Appreciate all of you being open to feedback.
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As one of the inspirations for this post, I think it's fine if they appear in /all.
I agree with the idea of making new "quarantine" (no pun intended) communities opt-out instead of opt-in, by auto subscribing users to them. I don't have a strong opinion or anything but I think it's better.
For this reason:
I think if all the Covid posts are suddenly coming from /c/COVID, people who want to avoid that will be like "oh, the fuck is c/Covid? I am unsubscribing from that cursed shit" at a pretty reliable rate. And on the other hand, it'll be hard to get people to see this post, and they'll suddenly have Covid posts sorta disappear without realizing it.
I for one will be using this excellent new functionality by unsubscribing from Doomer but not Covid.
Oh, and nearly all of the concerns raised in your threads are asking for a way to filter or hide posts, not a comm. These are features that have been requested for more than a year now. I know development basically stopped for quite a while, but not having the features that users actually ask for and that solve problems like this without affecting the broader shape of discussion is not a reason to use solutions that just make things more inconvenient and confusing for nearly everyone.
so what about an NSFW tag but it's a doomer tag?
Why not just make a /c/safenews and /c/safe_the_dunk_tank for users who have anxiety?
You can already unsub from the dunk tank, the problem is doomerism in c/chapotraphouse (main)